Will we be ploughing for re seeding in the future?

som farmer

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yeah ex spud ground can be a challenge to manage.
total agreement, we let a block, every year, moving around the farm, that became, can we have a maize crop first, then spuds, followed by wheat, to utilise the excess fert from the spuds ! The result, soil structure destroyed, weed seeds resurrected, plough pan to sort out, nightmare, and extremely glad we stopped.
 

Bury the Trash

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total agreement, we let a block, every year, moving around the farm, that became, can we have a maize crop first, then spuds, followed by wheat, to utilise the excess fert from the spuds ! The result, soil structure destroyed, weed seeds resurrected, plough pan to sort out, nightmare, and extremely glad we stopped.
Yes.

But What i meant as well, is also that Derek is being a bit crafty about the photos he is showing as comparisons.
 

Sid

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I never said you did. Can't you read
You said there wouldn't be much soil damage by the ridger.
I said the damage was done when it was ploughed.
You said it wasn't much different than ploughing to reseed, a operation you have said is bad, but it's OK for £££.

Ploughing has its place ,given its a once in maybe 5 years, probably 10 or never in some fields.
That must be better than spraying off , making the soil lifeless by killing all food sources and direct drilling every 2,3, or 5 years?
 

Derrick Hughes

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You said there wouldn't be much soil damage by the ridger.
I said the damage was done when it was ploughed.
You said it wasn't much different than ploughing to reseed, a operation you have said is bad, but it's OK for £££.

Ploughing has its place ,given its a once in maybe 5 years, probably 10 or never in some fields.
That must be better than spraying off , making the soil lifeless by killing all food sources and direct drilling every 2,3, or 5 years?
Your allowed your opinion, don't make it right or wrong , neither does mine, for potatoes and some other situations I can't see any option but ploughing , yes for £ . Is than not why we are in business ,
We have the top site in Europe for blight trials , I hope some UK farmers benefit from the work that's being going on for many years here
 
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Derrick Hughes

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Trying new seeder today
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som farmer

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Tractors way too big
think l would agree with that, our p/t help has bought a ford dexter, which is in our yard, it's tiny, and yet, we used to get all the work done, with similar, scary looking back.
Are the einbok tines/drill going into worked ground, or scratching in ? The first works well, the scratching didn't work here, at all, and l would suggest a proper d/d would work better. Nor would l dare to sow grass, at this time of year, to dry, but perhaps it's rape, or similar.
 

Derrick Hughes

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Ceredigion
think l would agree with that, our p/t help has bought a ford dexter, which is in our yard, it's tiny, and yet, we used to get all the work done, with similar, scary looking back.
Are the einbok tines/drill going into worked ground, or scratching in ? The first works well, the scratching didn't work here, at all, and l would suggest a proper d/d would work better. Nor would l dare to sow grass, at this time of year, to dry, but perhaps it's rape, or similar.
I sowed some a week ago and it's coming up, it's monsoon climate here , that tractor is it smallest he's got [emoji1787]
To stoney for a direct drill
 

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