Spraying fungicide and side effects

Still Farming

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Mixed Farmer
Location
South Wales UK
Exactly. One reason I would never spray near houses on a weekend……better when they are out at work.

I feel for farmers with 100 fields all close to houses. You can’t easily work your schedule round to suit in such a scenario. Nor can you easily give a specific time slot that you will be spraying the field, it’s not that simple.
Anyone out" at Work", anymore???
 

tullah

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Location
Linconshire
Exactly. One reason I would never spray near houses on a weekend……better when they are out at work.

I feel for farmers with 100 fields all close to houses. You can’t easily work your schedule round to suit in such a scenario. Nor can you easily give a specific time slot that you will be spraying the field, it’s not that simple.
But better with land adjacent to housing if you want to build. We are out in the sticks so spraying no problem.
 

teslacoils

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Exactly. One reason I would never spray near houses on a weekend……better when they are out at work.

I feel for farmers with 100 fields all close to houses. You can’t easily work your schedule round to suit in such a scenario. Nor can you easily give a specific time slot that you will be spraying the field, it’s not that simple.

Can't please everyone. I had a hedge in a village needed tidying up. Decided to pay champion hedgelayer to do it properly. Well, four neighbours, four opinions. One wanted me to leave a bit tall so they could decorate it for Christmas. What a palaver. Birds, too extreme, not enough etc.

It's houses now.
 

Chae1

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Location
Aberdeenshire
Is it possible to close windows and go indoors when sprayer about for an hour?
I know not acceptable often but to minimize any allegedly contamination.
Some chemicals do smell after for a while also.
Have you spoke to farmer or manager firstly before any further possible action !
That's the thing though. People can't seem to fudge off and go indoors or out of way when they see sprayer coming.

They like to get a lung full or a covering. Then complain about it.

That's my observation from sprayer. I would rather not give them the pleasure of being sprayed/moaning.
 

Phil P

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
North West
Exactly. One reason I would never spray near houses on a weekend……better when they are out at work.

I feel for farmers with 100 fields all close to houses. You can’t easily work your schedule round to suit in such a scenario. Nor can you easily give a specific time slot that you will be spraying the field, it’s not that simple.
We have some field’s the border houses/gardens and foot paths usually on at least one side of most of the fields as well. It’s pretty much impossible to spray on a weekend with all the doggers, sorry I mean dog walkers! I was there at 5 this morning and not a sole in site. Got to the back of the house and there’s a bloke decided to stand in the garden and watch still in a dressing gown🙄. Just can’t win with some folk 🤦🏻‍♂️.
I also once had one chap who’d took a fence panel out doing something in the garden, he then proceeded to stand on the edge of the field and expect me to just keep spraying past him 🤷🏻‍♂️. I had to get out and explain the situation! Sprayer booms just seem to be a beacon that attracts folk.
 

Still Farming

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
South Wales UK
We have some field’s the border houses/gardens and foot paths usually on at least one side of most of the fields as well. It’s pretty much impossible to spray on a weekend with all the doggers, sorry I mean dog walkers! I was there at 5 this morning and not a sole in site. Got to the back of the house and there’s a bloke decided to stand in the garden and watch still in a dressing gown🙄. Just can’t win with some folk 🤦🏻‍♂️.
I also once had one chap who’d took a fence panel out doing something in the garden, he then proceeded to stand on the edge of the field and expect me to just keep spraying past him 🤷🏻‍♂️. I had to get out and explain the situation! Sprayer booms just seem to be a beacon that attracts folk.
When we did our PA1 PA2 etc procedures to follow ,notify bee keepers ,signs out ,Lerap and buffer zones weather and wind etc. All possibilities and risk assessments .
When done all this , things happen often and "on the moment" actions taken .
"Both sides of the fence" as said ,some farmers/operators don't give a monkey's and also public the same.
 

Rue

Member
Mixed Farmer
That's the thing though. People can't seem to fudge off and go indoors or out of way when they see sprayer coming.

They like to get a lung full or a covering. Then complain about it.

That's my observation from sprayer. I would rather not give them the pleasure of being sprayed/moaning.


I'm sure there are people like that, idiots everywhere who love to inhale and moan. We're used to hearing Tractors so thought nothing of it until we felt the mist and saw the Sprayer. We ran indoors and stayed there for a while. That is difficult when the house is full of stuff and dusty from renovation. We were stood in our own garden when it happened.
 

Rue

Member
Mixed Farmer
We have some field’s the border houses/gardens and foot paths usually on at least one side of most of the fields as well. It’s pretty much impossible to spray on a weekend with all the doggers, sorry I mean dog walkers! I was there at 5 this morning and not a sole in site. Got to the back of the house and there’s a bloke decided to stand in the garden and watch still in a dressing gown🙄. Just can’t win with some folk 🤦🏻‍♂️.
I also once had one chap who’d took a fence panel out doing something in the garden, he then proceeded to stand on the edge of the field and expect me to just keep spraying past him 🤷🏻‍♂️. I had to get out and explain the situation! Sprayer booms just seem to be a beacon that attracts folk.
Sounds like an idiot and that doesn't make your job any easier. No wonder there's tension.
 

Rue

Member
Mixed Farmer
If you live in area for 17 years you bound to know farmers ,people etc etc ?
Whose upset who in area ?
Yes my Child actually went to School with a lot of farming families but we're no longer in touch and they're not that local. I know who my new neighbours (Farmers) are and I've messaged them online and hope to see them in person too. The land is rented out so it may be new/non-locals using it. I've asked the local Councillor who I've known for a long time and she doesn't know who it is either.
 

David.

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
J11 M40
You would think that manufacturers would have half an eye to public image when manufacturing chemicals.
Been using Verydor as flag leaf spray this week and it really stinks, why in 2021 are we making and using chemicals that make neighbours think they will be poisoned ?
 

Still Farming

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Mixed Farmer
Location
South Wales UK
You would think that manufacturers would have half an eye to public image when manufacturing chemicals.
Been using Verydor as flag leaf spray this week and it really stinks, why in 2021 are we making and using chemicals that make neighbours think they will be poisoned ?
Don't think as "safe " as "natural" water yet possibly.
 

Kidds

Member
Horticulture
My last 4 "chemicals" that I have sprayed have been seaweed extract, orange oil, potassium bicarb (baking powder) and epsom salts.
Non of which would do anyone or anything any harm but none of which would be acceptable to be drifting onto people in their gardens. I only have one property where it could drift onto and I am very aware of it, apart from today the wind is normally blowing away from them. I don't spray when it is windy but it was a bit borderline today, the flip side to only spraying when it is calm is that it always seems to be about 7pm on a Sunday just as most folk are settling down to a BBQ in the garden.
 

Rue

Member
Mixed Farmer
My last 4 "chemicals" that I have sprayed have been seaweed extract, orange oil, potassium bicarb (baking powder) and epsom salts.
Non of which would do anyone or anything any harm but none of which would be acceptable to be drifting onto people in their gardens. I only have one property where it could drift onto and I am very aware of it, apart from today the wind is normally blowing away from them. I don't spray when it is windy but it was a bit borderline today, the flip side to only spraying when it is calm is that it always seems to be about 7pm on a Sunday just as most folk are settling down to a BBQ in the garden.

Wow, I would settle for that concoction over any man made chems. Although as an Aromatherapist I know there are risks with anything and everyone is different. That would be better for the Bee's too? in very diluted amounts.
 
Hi all,
We're moving onto a small acre of land with a house in the middle, surrounded by fields. Cabbage and wheat I think.

Please excuse my uneducated stance and questions but I'm struggling to get info from the local famers.

Lived in the area for 17 years but this new house is just outside of the Village and it appears that they're spraying the fields constantly at the moment. This is not something I've ever noticed before. I've never once seen a sprayer in the area in 17 years.

The Children and I ended up being sprayed on the Bank hol sadly and then today we had just the toddler with us (Sat) and we were sorting out the garden when the Sprayer came. It's literally opposite our house and the boom was overhanging the field onto the road. He was speeding and we could see and feel the drift. Straight away my eyes and nose were stinging and I became wheezy. We ran indoors as soon as we could. Hours later I'm sat here with a sore throat and wheeze.

Quite concerned for my Toddler so I did message the local farmer to see if they know anything.

We also wanted to grow organic Veg on our land but where do we stand it all around us is spraying? do anyone know?

No attack on the local famers, we're hoping to be able to be friendly with them and hope they'll advise us when they're spraying, so far they don't seem up for that :-/

Bit awkward hey. We need to protect our health but don't want to offend our Farmer neighbour. Just to add it is a residential area, houses dotted along the road. It's Lincolnshire so there are many fields around.

Would putting up fence/conifers keep out a lot of the drift? didn't want to annoy them with shady tree's either as they literally plant right up to our land with no gap. But hey, got to think of my Children too.

Any ideas? why so much spraying too? it seems a massive amount/cost to them.
Hi all,
We're moving onto a small acre of land with a house in the middle, surrounded by fields. Cabbage and wheat I think.

Please excuse my uneducated stance and questions but I'm struggling to get info from the local famers.

Lived in the area for 17 years but this new house is just outside of the Village and it appears that they're spraying the fields constantly at the moment. This is not something I've ever noticed before. I've never once seen a sprayer in the area in 17 years.

The Children and I ended up being sprayed on the Bank hol sadly and then today we had just the toddler with us (Sat) and we were sorting out the garden when the Sprayer came. It's literally opposite our house and the boom was overhanging the field onto the road. He was speeding and we could see and feel the drift. Straight away my eyes and nose were stinging and I became wheezy. We ran indoors as soon as we could. Hours later I'm sat here with a sore throat and wheeze.

Quite concerned for my Toddler so I did message the local farmer to see if they know anything.

We also wanted to grow organic Veg on our land but where do we stand it all around us is spraying? do anyone know?

No attack on the local famers, we're hoping to be able to be friendly with them and hope they'll advise us when they're spraying, so far they don't seem up for that :-/

Bit awkward hey. We need to protect our health but don't want to offend our Farmer neighbour. Just to add it is a residential area, houses dotted along the road. It's Lincolnshire so there are many fields around.

Would putting up fence/conifers keep out a lot of the drift? didn't want to annoy them with shady tree's either as they literally plant right up to our land with no gap. But hey, got to think of my Children too.

Any ideas? why so much spraying too? it seems a massive amount/cost to them.


I’m not saying this hasn’t happened but you joined the forum on Saturday so there’ll be some scepticism about your claim.

Chemicals cost thousands of pounds so wasting them isn’t financially viable. Likewise a boom overhanging onto a road doesn’t sound correct to me. It could of hit a car so any operator driving a sprayer has training. The training is specially for things like you describe as well as making sure when mixing chemicals it’s done correctly so not to harm the crop or waste money.

I’d go and have a word with the farmer directly but without video evidence I don’t think you have a case.
 

Kidds

Member
Horticulture
Wow, I would settle for that concoction over any man made chems
Well they were all made by man some way or other but I get your point.
Part of the point I was making that although you don't know what was being sprayed and I would expect you to fear the worst, in reality it could have been quite harmless. (not trying to justify it)
 
We have some field’s the border houses/gardens and foot paths usually on at least one side of most of the fields as well. It’s pretty much impossible to spray on a weekend with all the doggers, sorry I mean dog walkers! I was there at 5 this morning and not a sole in site. Got to the back of the house and there’s a bloke decided to stand in the garden and watch still in a dressing gown🙄. Just can’t win with some folk 🤦🏻‍♂️.
I also once had one chap who’d took a fence panel out doing something in the garden, he then proceeded to stand on the edge of the field and expect me to just keep spraying past him 🤷🏻‍♂️. I had to get out and explain the situation! Sprayer booms just seem to be a beacon that attracts folk.

I’ve always wondered what the law actually says about footpaths and spraying. Obviously any decent operator would stop and allow the walkers through but I’d say the real question is say your halfway across a field spraying and you see walkers coming across a footpath. You stop and wait but they are walking through what you e already sprayed. It’ll definitely be on their shoes and move than likely trousers if it’s a tall crop such as wheat.
 

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