Bossfarmer
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is this why store cattle are a lot dearer than 10yrs ago? less producers about?They are going like snow off a dyke on a windy day sadly .
is this why store cattle are a lot dearer than 10yrs ago? less producers about?They are going like snow off a dyke on a windy day sadly .
No idea , I’d just be guessing who knows , they need to go up more imo.is this why store cattle are a lot dearer than 10yrs ago? less producers about?
Store lamb producers too maybe????I wonder if these store cattle producers would be better off retaining ownership of the animals and using a contract finisher.
It was a bit of a fashion round these parts years ago but all stopped now , don’t know why .I wonder if these store cattle producers would be better off retaining ownership of the animals and using a contract finisher.
It was a bit of a fashion round these parts years ago but all stopped now , don’t know why .
Yes your probably right , the next fashion is share farming always makes me laugh share what exactly not be money so must be the work .....Because there wasn't enough money in the job to share it out!!
It would if it was just in the uk, but from what I understand it’s supposed to be an international system.It would seem this is simply piling more costs onto our manufacturing businesses making them even less competitive compared with the likes of China, great idea for the future
And China keep going as normal undercutting allIt would if it was just in the uk, but from what I understand it’s supposed to be an international system.
net zero as far as I know is a world wide goal of the Paris agreement that has teeth, in import tariffs, so even if China don’t play fair we can tarif there products with a carbon tax if they go back on there agreements.
The uk would then be at an advantage to get to net zero as fast as possible. Regardless of how fast other countries do it.
Every time you fart send me a tenner for realising a smell , I get rich you feel better but your wife says you stink , get it ?It would if it was just in the uk, but from what I understand it’s supposed to be an international system.
net zero as far as I know is a world wide goal of the Paris agreement that has teeth, in import tariffs, so even if China don’t play fair we can tarif there products with a carbon tax if they go back on there agreements.
The uk would then be at an advantage to get to net zero as fast as possible. Regardless of how fast other countries do it.
That's where the flexibility goes?Because there wasn't enough money in the job to share it out!!
A lot of trees going inwhat are they doing instead? ploughing grass up for cereals?
I do not see how, unless they find a way to cut carbon transportAnd China keep going as normal undercutting all
do you really think the rest of the world will actually take any notice ?I do not see how, unless they find a way to cut carbon transport
like shipping etc, where a carbon foot print includes transport of goods, the same will be said for new Zealand lamb, when carbon foot print of its transport is added it will have to become even cheaper to compete with home grown produce, at some point, that even cheaper is impossible.
carbon taxes are designed to add the true cost to items, which is why it’s in the UK’s advantage to get ahead of the game.
I can tell you now all the different carbon stuff is designed to put imports at a disadvantage, just because of the likes of China, but it’s hard to demand it from others when your no better, or you would suffer under the new rules and taxes.
carbon Foot print is going to be a key way to price out imports from domestic markets and penalise countries not taking steps to hit net zero.
I do, but carbon taxes are not about making anyone rich, they are actually about keeping us all alive. Global problems need global solutions no one person or country will fix or break it, sending food half way round the world when it can be produced easily in the country it’s going too, has a cost far greater than the product.Every time you fart send me a tenner for realising a smell , I get rich you feel better but your wife says you stink , get it ?
But they pay the tax and still pollute , so no gain ?I do, but carbon taxes are not about making anyone rich, they are actually about keeping us all alive. Global problems need global solutions no one person or country will fix or break it, sending food half way round the world when it can be produced easily in the country it’s going too, has a cost far greater than the product.
Case in point, the destruction of rain forest to produce beef for export, compared with a uk farmer that likely net zero already, why should that import have the ability to under cut that local production, when is has a massive carbon foot print, from the destruction of the rain Forrest to the transport it needed, the true cost not just its intrinsic costs. Fuel etc.
the carbon system is about bringing fairness and accountability to this broken system.
If done right local production should always have a small advantage.
Are China really going to clean their act up then ?I do not see how, unless they find a way to cut carbon transport
like shipping etc, where a carbon foot print includes transport of goods, the same will be said for new Zealand lamb, when carbon foot print of its transport is added it will have to become even cheaper to compete with home grown produce, at some point, that even cheaper is impossible.
carbon taxes are designed to add the true cost to items, which is why it’s in the UK’s advantage to get ahead of the game.
I can tell you now all the different carbon stuff is designed to put imports at a disadvantage, just because of the likes of China, but it’s hard to demand it from others when your no better, or you would suffer under the new rules and taxes.
carbon Foot print is going to be a key way to price out imports from domestic markets and penalise countries not taking steps to hit net zero.
Not yet. They're in the vanguard of their industrial revolution, they need more growth and won't stop building all the airports, infrastructure or securing their World dominance in manufacturingAre China really going to clean their act up then ?
That’s always tricky, but we are not the only ones looking at carbon type taxes and food miles, if the EU implemented carbon foot print or food miles on all non European imports what would happen?do you really think the rest of the world will actually take any notice ?
They will tell any one what they would like to hear though to achieve their aims
Actually they are adding new renewable tech faster than most, it’s just population demands and old polices they had that is messing them up with all these coal fired power stations, I personally think they will play ball, because we can tax them one way or another if they don’t.Are China really going to clean their act up then ?