Is the answer to UK livestock sustainability
- Thread starter Stuart J
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Hilly
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- Scottish Borders.
No , it’s the next BSE in waiting .
In what way?
Hilly
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- Location
- Scottish Borders.
Cattle eating animals way
Probably in pigs and poultry. For sheep and cows it's grass and clover.
Hilly
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- Scottish Borders.
They already worries insects are in decline , start messing about with them and feeding them to animals that don’t eat them naturally dosent seem right to me.
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- Glen Clova, Angus, DD8 4RD
Cattle and sheep raised on pasture that's unsuitable for sustainable cultivation are already sustainable, more so if their grazing management is fully adaptive.
They are increasingly likely to be thrown under the bus though to buy a short window of opportunity (about 10 years) to de-carbonise society which will almost certainly be wasted.
Their pasture will then be planted with trees which will take far too long to sequester enough carbon to recover even that which is released in the process of planting them, let alone make a difference to the atmospheric carbon excess from fossil fuel burning.
I hope I'm proved wrong.....
They are increasingly likely to be thrown under the bus though to buy a short window of opportunity (about 10 years) to de-carbonise society which will almost certainly be wasted.
Their pasture will then be planted with trees which will take far too long to sequester enough carbon to recover even that which is released in the process of planting them, let alone make a difference to the atmospheric carbon excess from fossil fuel burning.
I hope I'm proved wrong.....
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- Essex
You're still buying a soya product. The grower and deforester both benefit from your purchase.
We should grow more peas and beans, use less carbon intensive n fert and export less feed barley.
Brewers grains, Trafford Gold, citrus pulp, bread, potatoes, soya meal.
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- Essex
I though you were all in favour of a local food system???
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- Glen Clova, Angus, DD8 4RD
This is another issue that the "get rid of all cattle and sheep" crowd conveniently overlook: all of those are byproducts of a human food (or drink) product which are given an economic value by feeding them to livestock. What would happen to them without livestock? AD? What would their value be then? What impact would that have on the human food product they are derived from?
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- Essex
Worst case I suppose they would be spread back on the fields.
Which would use as much fossil fuels as feeding to livestock so that element is neutral.
Its like saying driving around in a car in winter with the heating on full blast and the windows open is OK because you’re not getting warm from it.
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- Glen Clova, Angus, DD8 4RD
Spread soya meal back on fields and the soy oil would have to be 3 or 4 times the price for the crop to add up.....
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- Essex
I did say worst case. And it is what happens to food waste anyway.
Not so sure, wouldn't cattle and sheep eat lots of insects anyway ?
Don't tend to see them sorting through every bit before they chomp on it to make sure they are not eating the odd bug of some sort
M-J-G
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Agreed, I feel the same about fish meal too.
M-J-G
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Cattle eat the odd bit of sheep and rabbit sh!t too, that doesn't mean you can start feeding them on it.
Hilly
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- Scottish Borders.
Would you eat a plate of insects for your dinner ?