Store Lamb - Treatments on to farm

Al R

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Livestock Farmer
Location
West Wales
got to make financial sense hasn’t it by the time there’s a call out vet time plus meds it’s never going to pay you back
They’ve never dropped out to me, we collect when we know we are near them or have a dog in for treatment etc. My health plan bill isn’t 3 figures but still more than my annual Betamox/alamycin spend BUT I don’t have store lambs or alamycin could be higher. Health plan done over the phone.
 

neilo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
There seems to be an awful lot of Zolvix used by Forum members.I thought that the BVA were telling people to use it sparingly as it was the wormer of last resort? What happens when it is resistant and ineffective?

It’s primary use has always been as a quarantine wormer. To not do so (or Startect) would be folly imo, especially if you have a sheep flock of your own on the place. That is surely the very definition of ‘using it sparingly’?
 

Anymulewilldo

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Cheshire
I know there been plenty bad years but it’s been quite a few years since there was fudge all money in the … bought correctly of course…
I’ve just had a flick through the book. According to my records the last year we blew real money on stores was 2014. Buying September - mid December, selling February - April with a £15 margin between incoming price and out going price. That was mule wethers and texel crosses. Ironically the only lambs that year that made a healthy profit were a pen of 40 swale x herdwick wethers out of Skipton, mid December cost £38 incoming, went late February @ £74.50. All straight off dairy grass. Grandad went mental when I bought them. Looking back it could have been them that started me on the horned lamb job?
Although they did cause 1 good wintering man too ban me from ever sending horned hoggs too him again. His farm is well fenced but he couldn’t keep them in!! 😣😣
 

jendan

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Northumberland
I’ve just had a flick through the book. According to my records the last year we blew real money on stores was 2014. Buying September - mid December, selling February - April with a £15 margin between incoming price and out going price. That was mule wethers and texel crosses. Ironically the only lambs that year that made a healthy profit were a pen of 40 swale x herdwick wethers out of Skipton, mid December cost £38 incoming, went late February @ £74.50. All straight off dairy grass. Grandad went mental when I bought them. Looking back it could have been them that started me on the horned lamb job?
Although they did cause 1 good wintering man too ban me from ever sending horned hoggs too him again. His farm is well fenced but he couldn’t keep them in!! 😣😣
I think thats what it will be like this year. £80 incoming. £95 out.
 

neilo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
I think thats what it will be like this year. £80 incoming. £95 out.
That’s what worries me. 😣😣

Hark at you guys, trying hard to talk the trade down before it's started. :rolleyes:

@hill shepherd is expecting you to step up to the mark, having doubled your money in the Spring. Surely you can't all have spent it on fancy new Range Rovers and their repair bills?
 

Anymulewilldo

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Cheshire
Hark at you guys, trying hard to talk the trade down before it's started. :rolleyes:

@hill shepherd is expecting you to step up to the mark, having doubled your money in the Spring. Surely you can't all have spent it on fancy new Range Rovers and their repair bills?
I’ve spent it on breeding sheep and suckler cows! 😉 rightly or wrongly who knows 🤷🏻‍♂️ 😁
 

Estate fencing.

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Livestock Farmer
There seems to be an awful lot of Zolvix used by Forum members.I thought that the BVA were telling people to use it sparingly as it was the wormer of last resort? What happens when it is resistant and ineffective?
I use zolvix or startect when the lambs are weaned and moved to clean grazing (then never worm again) and any sheep that I buy in gets it and kept in the shed for a couple of days to kick the worms out before they hit my grass. I don't think that over use at all, in fact use of wormers at all is bugger all these days as just cydectin lean ewes and hoggs at lambing, white wormer for lambs at 6 weeks and the zolix at weaning. No lambs run on the permanent pasture between weaning and April when the ewe hoggs come back.
 

neilo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
Just reading a few of these posts, do people regard the yellow wormer as pretty much redundant now ?

It will depend on whether the worms on your farm are resistant to it, which you will only find out with a FEC reduction test.

In the context of this thread, there is a lot of resistance to it, and also to clear wormers. The only way to be sure that you don’t bring resistant worms onto your farm, or to kill them (in the sheep) if you already have them, into use Zolvix or Startect (orange or purple). Anything else isn’t an effective quarantine drench now.
 

Cmoran

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Galway Ireland
Every lamb that arrives here is injected with ivomec classic and treated with click extra (we use clickzen on forward stores) the day after arrival I find it works well for us most of the store lambs are sold on inside a week to local farmers for wintering the heavier lambs are put into our own system and depending on condition can be killed after withdrawal date. We don’t usually mineral dose until September when we start fluke dosing as the lambs leaving fast at this time of year.
 

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