primmiemoo
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An alarming number of farmers are educated. Even the ones without degrees.
As does mother but you see the principle of what I’m saying. Just emphasising the point that a progressive view on farming teamed with my fathers old, experienced point of view is the way forward.If you want to get on with farmers you need to ease off the throttle a bit , I know plenty who still raise a few turkeys and sell to locals and what about farmers markets
No no, not saying farmers aren’t intelligent at all- I am one. Just highlighting that farming is not as clear cut as it once was. God, on courses to give antibiotics nowadays- not just jabbing as we once would.An alarming number of farmers are educated. Even the ones without degrees.
“2014 (for crops) and 2016 (for milk and meat) the Organic Food Quality project published three extensive systematic literature reviews which:Organic Food Quality | Nafferton Ecological Farming Group
Nafferton ecological Farming Group, Organic Industry Support and Knowledge Transfer. Find suppliers of organic produce in Northern England.research.ncl.ac.uk
During 20 years of research into organic farming at Newcastle University's Nafferton Farm, I don't know if any of their findings or novel ideas or systems have added to our overall knowledge. And that is despite the fact that the staff are completely biased towards ''Organic Farming''.
Which highlights the Complexities of farming , my dad was never a stick in the mud type, but appreciate some can beAs does mother but you see the principle of what I’m saying. Just emphasising the point that a progressive view on farming teamed with my fathers old, experienced point of view is the way forward.
Older farmers, such as my father, really can be stuck in their ways Highlighting why I’m reading up on organic, we’ve spoken of it so want to delve into it a bit to discuss it further with my dad.
Also, farmers markets are well above board- hardly a cash in hand from your neighbours is it? Government all over public sale of goods nowadays, really is a shame that things aren’t as they were many moons ago. Though I do accept that some change has been for the good.
This is funny I got to “organic crap” and ignored the rest of that paragraph…
I take what you’re saying that there may not be a difference if you tasted one after the other but there is a difference in the price we receive.
Undoubtedly, with the pressures from the government we are being pushed towards a more sustainable form of farming. Studying from the books and taking knowledge from my father is a perfect combination of learning lessons and looking forward. I think I would be stupid to not look to the future and try to tailor the growth of our farm for that. Farming itself is becoming a more scientific profession with greater need for educated farmers. Gone are the days of us raising turkeys and selling them to the locals at xmas time, things are above board, clinical maybe, and science plays and will continue to play, a big part in the development of our profession. Great days when we could go out farm and come home, but a progressive, sustainable farming is the way forward.
No no, not saying farmers aren’t intelligent at all- I am one. Just highlighting that farming is not as clear cut as it once was. God, on courses to give antibiotics nowadays- not just jabbing as we once would.
You misunderstood what I was saying. Never mind.Um, we stuck with tradition, and didn't go with just jabbing ~ other than to embrace vaccines when they became available.
You misunderstood what I was saying. Never mind.
Getting your hair off mate, I literally said that it sucks we have to courses when we were all shown by a vet/ dad and can competently use some blinking antibiotics. No ones the enemy hereAh, so you didn't have your Vet teach you?
Getting your hair off mate, I literally said that it sucks we have to courses when we were all shown by a vet/ dad and can competently use some blinking antibiotics. No ones the enemy here
Most working farmers are “educated”This is funny I got to “organic crap” and ignored the rest of that paragraph…
I take what you’re saying that there may not be a difference if you tasted one after the other but there is a difference in the price we receive.
Undoubtedly, with the pressures from the government we are being pushed towards a more sustainable form of farming. Studying from the books and taking knowledge from my father is a perfect combination of learning lessons and looking forward. I think I would be stupid to not look to the future and try to tailor the growth of our farm for that. Farming itself is becoming a more scientific profession with greater need for educated farmers. Gone are the days of us raising turkeys and selling them to the locals at xmas time, things are above board, clinical maybe, and science plays and will continue to play, a big part in the development of our profession. Great days when we could go out farm and come home, but a progressive, sustainable farming is the way forward.
I disagree totally, the metric we need to evaluate agriculture is how many calories of energy are needed to produce a calorie of food, by this metric organic is far better. Conventional agriculture is destroying the soil, where as regenerative (organic or not) is building soilAs a scientist you'll soon see that all the "organic" crap is mostly as science based as the saying there's a man in the moon.
No scientific basis for all the ridiculous claims made by self interest groups like the Soil Assn and farmer Sid.
No one can tell the difference between an "organic" steak or glass of milk and the same product from a traditional source
As for Sid's comments about nothing new in agriculture, for once he's spot on. People were caponising (hormone treating) poultry 50 years ago.
Yee gods man as if farming isn’t complicated enough now you want us to start counting calories?I disagree totally, the metric we need to evaluate agriculture is how many calories of energy are needed to produce a calorie of food, by this metric organic is far better. Conventional agriculture is destroying the soil, where as regenerative (organic or not) is building soil
It's only the same as doing a nutrient budget for your rotation.Yee gods man as if farming isn’t complicated enough now you want us to start counting calories?
There is a happy medium which would work far better, having farmed conventionally on super high input systems and organic too a mix between the 2 would be the ideal world if carbon was counted etc.I disagree totally, the metric we need to evaluate agriculture is how many calories of energy are needed to produce a calorie of food, by this metric organic is far better. Conventional agriculture is destroying the soil, where as regenerative (organic or not) is building soil