Autumn manure banned

holwellcourtfarm

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Livestock Farmer
Do the gov really care if a farmer grows 4 ton an acre of winter cereal crops or 2 of spring . Less to handle , less to dry . If we run out we can always import as then it's some other countries carbon footprint until it hits the UK coastline . Sure our lot see everything imported as 100% green until it's in the UK
Rather inconvenient for the National Food Strategy with it's recommendation of raising average national cereal yields by 30% though......

None of this policy stuff is joined up it seems.
 

Heathland

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Yep. Saw you had a few heaps of nutripoo sat in fields. Who spreads yours? The MPs husband. Didn't realise you were packing in with the broilers. If you get prosecuted reckon you will have several others at the magistrates with you!
Correct,packed up broilers 10+yrs now,site has been used for rearing birds up to the point of lay,and this is the last flock,be empty this time next week.
I don't really want to be a guinea pig in a court test case,front of the queue or at the back!
 

holwellcourtfarm

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Livestock Farmer
We never do that as the fields have stubble turnips on until spring . Presuming the sheep wintering is still allowed that is.
Used to be common practice though. We first grew forage maize in about 1984.

If you plough down on London clay in spring it's the devil's own job to get a decent seedbed without the frost action.
 

Pan mixer

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Near Colchester
Just had a play with MANNER and I stand to be corrected but if I applied 35t/ha to stubble beginning of sept and followed by w wheat, nitrate losses are 5kg - so that's OK is it?
I haven't been able to get through to Manner.

For the last few years the max allowed application of FYM has been 35t/ha as far as I am aware.

So no change there then?
 

Hindsight

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Location
Lincolnshire
Just had a play with MANNER and I stand to be corrected but if I applied 35t/ha to stubble beginning of sept and followed by w wheat, nitrate losses are 5kg - so that's OK is it?

Did you work out if had to email the EA to request a derogation even though the old pig muck will deliver a nitrate loss less than 5 k/ha according to MANNER. Trying not to email the EA and raise head above parapet. But conscious the spreaders soon gotta start work.
 

Pan mixer

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Near Colchester
Did you work out if had to email the EA to request a derogation even though the old pig muck will deliver a nitrate loss less than 5 k/ha according to MANNER. Trying not to email the EA and raise head above parapet. But conscious the spreaders soon gotta start work.
I said elsewhere that I had emailed the EA last Thursday (I think) ; auto reply - we may not reply for even more than the 20 working days that we are supposed to reply in - due to covid.
 

Hindsight

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Location
Lincolnshire
Correct,packed up broilers 10+yrs now,site has been used for rearing birds up to the point of lay,and this is the last flock,be empty this time next week.
I don't really want to be a guinea pig in a court test case,front of the queue or at the back!

Whats the MPs husband reckon then?! He should have a better idea than most of use what the government intends? Or at least I would expect him too!!!
 

radar

Member
Mixed Farmer
Did you work out if had to email the EA to request a derogation even though the old pig muck will deliver a nitrate loss less than 5 k/ha according to MANNER. Trying not to email the EA and raise head above parapet. But conscious the spreaders soon gotta start work.
Keeping my powder dry ATM hoping someone somewhere will see sense. Problem is that the field heaps are in full view of anyone driving past so may have to contact them. Oh to farm down a fen somewhere!
 

Hindsight

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Location
Lincolnshire
Keeping my powder dry ATM hoping someone somewhere will see sense. Problem is that the field heaps are in full view of anyone driving past so may have to contact them. Oh to farm down a fen somewhere!

Was pondering the field heaps Friday. Trying to work out if passing traffic and general public would know what was happening and report to EA. What a game.
 

teslacoils

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Was pondering the field heaps Friday. Trying to work out if passing traffic and general public would know what was happening and report to EA. What a game.

There will be some, early retired, polished car on the drive, mow lawn every day, haughty wife with stupid small dog, know-it-all parish council incommer type tw4t just waiting.....
 

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Red Tractor drops launch of green farming scheme amid anger from farmers

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quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

read the TFF thread here: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/gfc-was-to-go-ahead-now-not-going-ahead.405234/
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