Farming in the future

toquark

Member
We have to find common ground with the environmental and social justice movement. There is no point putting our wagons in a circle; we don't have enough wagons.
Thing is, it’s not just about the environment and social justice though is it? If it was common ground would be easily found. It’s about hard socialism and control of the populace, and I don’t want my kids to grow up with it.

That has nothing to do with farming tbh, just a personal musing.
 

Steevo

Member
Location
Gloucestershire
Thing is, it’s not just about the environment and social justice though is it? If it was common ground would be easily found. It’s about hard socialism and control of the populace, and I don’t want my kids to grow up with it.

That has nothing to do with farming tbh, just a personal musing.

Precisely this. It’s hard to find common ground with extremists.
 

Goweresque

Member
Location
North Wilts
We have to find common ground with the environmental and social justice movement. There is no point putting our wagons in a circle; we don't have enough wagons.

That'll be the environmental movement that stick the boot into farmers at ever opportunity and the 'social justice' movement that is basically a bunch of Marxists? Yeah, they really are going to be pleased to help a bunch of wealthy land owners make more money :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Anyone thinking that bunch of liars and power mad freaks are going to do anything except chew up farming and spit out the bits has lost their marbles.
 

Swarfmonkey

Member
Location
Hampshire
We have to find common ground with the environmental and social justice movement. There is no point putting our wagons in a circle; we don't have enough wagons.

I think you've being a tad naïve there. You're never going to find common ground with the extremists that infest the environmental movement and are the very core of the "social justice movement".
 

neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
We have to find common ground with the environmental and social justice movement. There is no point putting our wagons in a circle; we don't have enough wagons.

We have a few here, being Libtard Central for the region, who organise a local ‘Energy group’. I regularly engage with several of their members, explaining what we do and why we do it.

Without exception they have been passive aggressive types, who think they know everything as they’ve read some tosh on the internet, read it in the Guardian, or heard it at one of the Group meetings where they have speakers from AR, amongst others. :facepalm:

I struggle to see how common ground can be found with these people tbh.
 

GeorgeK

Member
Location
Leicestershire
Not an exhaustive list but I consider these some of the main points.

Opportunities
  • Well placed to meet growing demand for quality, high welfare, sustainably produced food.
  • Climate change and growing global population means more demand for our produce.
  • Carbon capture and renewable energy.
  • Drones and robots for weed control without chemicals, 24hr driverless fieldwork etc.
Threats
  • Premium food will only ever be niche, vast majority only interested in lowest prices.
  • Small country too many people, so more pressure for public access, more fly tipping, theft and intolerance towards our work and way of life.
  • Price of agricultural commodities isn't keeping up with labour, input and equipment costs.
  • Reduced understanding of the practicalities of food production allows pressure groups and antis to take control, leading to farmers being regulated out of business and food imported.
 

egbert

Member
Livestock Farmer
We have to find common ground with the environmental and social justice movement. There is no point putting our wagons in a circle; we don't have enough wagons.
Why do so many people associate 'social justice' with enviro stuff?
It's cost the Green Party huge tranches of voters if I'm any judge.
I'd never ever vote for them while they're such extreme lefties, following a creed that's shown repeatedly to be fundamentally counter to human nature.
 

SFI - What % were you taking out of production?

  • 0 %

    Votes: 79 42.5%
  • Up to 25%

    Votes: 65 34.9%
  • 25-50%

    Votes: 30 16.1%
  • 50-75%

    Votes: 3 1.6%
  • 75-100%

    Votes: 3 1.6%
  • 100% I’ve had enough of farming!

    Votes: 6 3.2%

Red Tractor drops launch of green farming scheme amid anger from farmers

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As reported in Independent


quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

read the TFF thread here: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/gfc-was-to-go-ahead-now-not-going-ahead.405234/
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