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Always run my ewe lambs with the fat lambs on red clover in the autumn before pulling them off to go to the tup. Gets them off to a good start.
Crimson is more Aggressive than Berseem getting away Berseem is more Aggressive than Balansa, which is important if your sowing with root crops or later in the year , Crimson And Berseem are away as quick if not quicker than Brasicas , that's from my experience growing them hereNever heard of the colour ‘crimson’ (not that fancy over here, it’s just red)
So is the white flower the berseem then??
I know very little about clover
Crimson is more Aggressive than Berseem getting away Berseem is more Aggressive than Balansa, which is important if your sowing with root crops or later in the year , Crimson And Berseem are away as quick if not quicker than Brasicas , that's from my experience growing them here
It may like my soil better perhaps, with the cost if Nitrogen I'm going to stick with it for a bit and see how I get on , I do find Balansa a bit slow at the start thoughI’ve tried mixes containing Crimson clover in for the last couple of years and been quite underwhelmed by it tbh.
@Kevtherev , myself and others dabbled with balansa a few years ago (there’s a thread on here somewhere), and Germinal put Fixation balansa out on trial on several farms (I had a couple of bags to try out). The fact it’s not included in mixes now will tell you the results.
Probably done it’s job by then supplying nitrogen I’d have thoughtClover with a root crop will be puddled away into the mud on a wet winter.
Clover with a root crop will be puddled away into the mud on a wet winter.
it's more to feed the crop and leave residual Nitrogen than feed the stock, Crimson is deep rooting it will scavenge deep down for nitrogen and bring it upProbably done it’s job by then supplying nitrogen I’d have thought
Would be too short a turn around I’d think to get the most benefit out of the clovers.I certainly wouldn’t be putting clovers in to a winter grazed root crop here. Brassicas need N early on, and plenty of it, not several months later when any clovers have got established/are dieing back releasing N.
I can see it being useful in a fodder crop for Summer/Autumn grazing though.
Balansa spends it first few weeks establishing its root mass before it pops out of the ground and goes wild. I add no more than 2 lbs to the acre of some fast growing grass to give it a companion. Really the best time to plant Balansa is now for May to June grazing. It will survive the winter. Let it go until August and you will have a dense mat that smothers out all other weeds. It can leave 150lbs + of N per acre at termination. 30% of those plants will survive for the following year even if you till them under.It may like my soil better perhaps, with the cost if Nitrogen I'm going to stick with it for a bit and see how I get on , I do find Balansa a bit slow at the start though
Balansa spends it first few weeks establishing its root mass before it pops out of the ground and goes wild. I add no more than 2 lbs to the acre of some fast growing grass to give it a companion. Really the best time to plant Balansa is now for May to June grazing. It will survive the winter. Let it go until August and you will have a dense mat that smothers out all other weeds. It can leave 150lbs + of N per acre at termination. 30% of those plants will survive for the following year even if you till them under.
Cant you mow itGot some red clover and ryegrass lay (pretty much all clover now) to graze off before we plough it up for wheat. Only things I can get there to graze it off are some of my breeding ewes. We normally put the rams on around early November, they will be off it by then. Will it be alright for the ewes to go on the red clover for a few weeks?
It's the aftermath after I have cut I for hay so noCant you mow it
At the risk of being got at , if its not worth mowing then plough it under , the advice is clear not to graze breeding ewes around matingIt's the aftermath after I have cut I for hay so no