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Hilly

Member
The weigh cells possibly are more I've not bought any for years, there is 4k tops of materials in that and I cannot see 175 hours of workshop time, even as a 1 off, so on a production line (usually 40%+ labour reduction) 11k leaves a very good margin even after all the overhead costs. £40/hour is for fully equipped fabrication shop, not some bloke in a shed with a stick welder, so 175 hours is a sh*t load of work. If I could get a grant I would make myself one 😂
So what do you do when your not making cattle crushes ?
 

dave mountain

Member
Livestock Farmer
So what do you do when your not making cattle crushes ?
The ones I have made (very basic) cost me 7 hours labour each as all the material was in my steel rack left over from industrial jobs, add some left over petrochemical primer and topcoat, job done
😂 never made a complex one but I can assure you there is a good margin in that at 11k
 

dave mountain

Member
Livestock Farmer
Cos I have 800 ft of feed fence in three sheds tell me how I catch 400 cattle with 20ft locking yokes ? All sheds I see with locking yokes have them all the way along and are great but ££££
I've not seen that, most the farms around here (including me) have a small shed with yokes where the problems are kept, the rest just ring feeders or standard barriers.
not knocking your purchase btw, definitely worth having with the grant even if it was 20k
 

Hilly

Member
I've not seen that, most the farms around here (including me) have a small shed with yokes where the problems are kept, the rest just ring feeders or standard barriers.
not knocking your purchase btw, definitely worth having with the grant even if it was 20k
Every shed I have ever seen with locking yokes is 100% length of the feed fence , feed em lock em great things .
 

dave mountain

Member
Livestock Farmer
Every shed I have ever seen with locking yokes is 100% length of the feed fence , feed em lock em great things .
I think that's why it makes sense for us to have a separate smaller shed for the problems where the feed fence is just a few barriers, obviously not as good as having all the sheds as yokes but saves a good bit of time for a fraction of the cost, but there are always times when you need the crush whatever you do
 

Hilly

Member
I think that's why it makes sense for us to have a separate smaller shed for the problems where the feed fence is just a few barriers, obviously not as good as having all the sheds as yokes but saves a good bit of time for a fraction of the cost, but there are always times when you need the crush whatever you do
Iv a pall has two hundred cows with 200 locking yokes , feed em lock em , wow fantastic , they do AI scanning loads o stuff they are great like .
 

fermerboy

Member
Location
Banffshire
Quite, they are well worth it but you've got to wonder if they are inflating the prices just because they know they are only ever bought with significant grant input. from an engineering point of view I really don't really see 11k of materials/labour in that crush, let alone with the savings from mass producing them.

Not knocking the crush at all but thank god I'm not the only one who can't see the price in that crush.

I'm no engineer or fabricator but for the life of me I just can't see how that value is there.

Not disputing the price or the quality or indeed the usefulness to the end user but I can't help but feel that there is some serious profiteering going on on this grant aided stuff.

It's not just ag stuff either, blame covid, blame brexit, blame the lorry drivers and jack the price up and hope the punters bend over and take it.:oops::oops:
Maybe I'm just getting old and cynical! :unsure::unsure:
 

box

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
NZ
At first glance it does seem expensive, but remember it's not just the price of the manufacturing the item, but the cost of all the R & D needed to get it to that point.

I imagine a cheaper crush with that many moving parts would be absolute rubbish. If you're dealing with it on a daily basis, you may as well get something that works properly and lasts.
 

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