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CPF

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Arable Farmer
So basically, Russia is holding Europe to ransom for gas.
That's the crux of the matter.
At least, that's how it seems to me.
Why else is the gas price so high?
Because we need it, they have it, we don't really, so they can charge what they like.
This was in the news in august and then when very quiet so I looked it back up some good reading we are only told half a story by our news channels
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AT Aloss

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TBF to the ruskkis we and the EU spend a lot of time slagging them off ....then turn round and cry foul about the gas they need :rolleyes:
Stalin's masterplan in WW2 was to encircle Paris & bring most of Western Europe into the Russian super state. The Americans headed off this advance at the Elbe. Much was made of this splitting German forces in two but it genuinely stopped the Russian advance (although their supply chains were critically extended). Churchill's contingency plan in the event of the Americans withdrawing from Europe after the war is called Operation Unthinkable, and much of the Cold War resulted from resisting Russian ambitions on Western Europe.

Who would have thought that the Cold War could be won by turning off the gas & literally making everyone cold & hungry.
 
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Stalin's masterplan in WW2 was to encircle Paris & bring most of Western Europe into the Russian super state. The Americans headed off this advance at the Elbe. Much was made of this splitting German forces in two but it genuinely stopped the Russian advance (although their supply chains were critically extended). Churchill's contingency plan in the event of the Americans withdrawing from Europe after the war is called Operation Unthinkable, and much of the Cold War resulted from resisting Russian ambitions on Western Europe.

Who would have thought that the Cold War could be won by turning off the gas & literally making everyone cold & hungry.
why exactly is the gas coming from russia? not something ive thought of before
 

AT Aloss

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NFFN Member
why exactly is the gas coming from russia? not something ive thought of before
Conoco Phillips closed all their southern North Sea operations from 2015, with our nearby storage facility at Theddlethorpe (now being considered for a nuclear waste dump) delivering its last gas to the grid in 2018. Eight of these massive gas storage sites have closed in recent years & North Sea gas was due to be replaced by fracking until Russian funded media campaigns (including a large bung to Friends of the Earth, as well as the famous fake news "fire coming from a tap" media, which was a completely different issue) created negativity amongst the general public. The USA has the cheapest natural gas in the world now due to fracking.

 

Wolds Beef

Member
Right I have the fertiliser on the farm! Bought to be paid for in a few months time. But has anyone considered cutting the rate they use to eak it out a bit so you have some for next year?
WB
And are there any graphs of modern varieties and how they would react tonnage wise to less fertiliser.
 

DRC

Member
The merchants must be sweating a bit that everyone is going to pay them on time for what they’ve bought.
How does it work. Do the manufacturers or importers carry the deny until it’s paid ?
 

cricketandcrops

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BASIS
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Lincolnshire
Right I have the fertiliser on the farm! Bought to be paid for in a few months time. But has anyone considered cutting the rate they use to eak it out a bit so you have some for next year?
WB
And are there any graphs of modern varieties and how they would react tonnage wise to less fertiliser.
Yara conduct N dose response curves every year, ordinarily first wheat around the 220-240 N mark, with AN pricing currently economic optimum drops to around 180 N IMO……I would be taking the little and often approach. Flat rate of 60-80 kg first pass then drip feed to maximise NUE. Time to use an N-Tester too, I have never known what to recommend more N than planned, always less. Others may differ but that is from my experience of using. My phone has gone crazy with enquires re N-Tester and N-Sensor which I am passing on to relevant people as not my bag anymore.

Heard all sorts, like dropping sulphur to save a few quid……insufficient sulphur will decrease NUE meaning more N in required, for me N rates drop 10-15% now with price where it is…….however it is still the best ROI of inputs. Just need to maximise it’s efficiency. I’ve been banging this drum for years but the savings havent been big enough (according to the farmers) however all of a sudden they are.

Plenty of info out there on NUE, time to use it
 

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