The NI/ROI Protocol

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Ashtree

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JimAndy said:
he not a politician(on which i agree with you) but a unelected bureaucrat , wasn't brexit meant to get rid of them ?
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@Danllan will tell you ‘till the cows come home, that Brexit means two things in particular. Sovereignty and accountability through elected parliamentarians alone acting for the people.
Sovereignty of course was jettisoned by surrendering NI, to Barnier. Who negotiated the deal? Yes of course, an unelected former civil servant and advisor, who was plucked from relative obscurity and “appointed“ as a government minister.
Of course @Danllan also forecast economic Renaissance and world beating trade deals including his personal erection piece, CONZUK.
Instead you’ve got, lights out, no fuel, bugger all trade deals, inflation, stagflation, corruption, nepotism, army on the streets, no turkey for Christmas, veggies rotting in the fields, pigs that can’t be slaughtered.
Speaking of pigs…..large herd of them seen flying over the Tory conference this afternoon. World beating pigs.
 
nivilla1982

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Seems to be a deadline of end this month based on Lord Frost's comments/speech(s).
There appears to be have little public action/comment/action on behalf of the European Union Commission in response to the UK Government "Command" Paper/or the unilateral extension of mitigations etc.
While uneasy on about the unelected nature of the House of Lords, it is still able to be overridden by the elected House of Commons.

It would have been a useful exercise if the May Government actually read the Belfast Agreement.
 
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Ashtree said:
@Danllan will tell you ‘till the cows come home, that Brexit means two things in particular. Sovereignty and accountability through elected parliamentarians alone acting for the people.
Sovereignty of course was jettisoned by surrendering NI, to Barnier. Who negotiated the deal? Yes of course, an unelected former civil servant and advisor, who was plucked from relative obscurity and “appointed“ as a government minister.
Of course @Danllan also forecast economic Renaissance and world beating trade deals including his personal erection piece, CONZUK.
Instead you’ve got, lights out, no fuel, bugger all trade deals, inflation, stagflation, corruption, nepotism, army on the streets, no turkey for Christmas, veggies rotting in the fields, pigs that can’t be slaughtered.
Speaking of pigs…..large herd of them seen flying over the Tory conference this afternoon. World beating pigs.
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Just noticed this... queen of selective quoting though you are, even someone as stupid as yourself could be expected to do a bit of back-covering, if only not to appear so stupid.

Yes, sovereignty is only possible outside of an organisation the membership of which require its surrendering, that's bleeding obvious - argue otherwise all you want...

Yes the UK will prosper having left the EU, find me a single post in which I claimed it would be immediate, won't you? No you won't because there isn't one. Yet I can show you posts wherein I wrote that the transition out of the EU and the immediate years after would, very obviously, not be plain sailing.

I wrote that, and explained it using two particular points: firstly that all markets suffer from change and need time to adapt; secondly, that it gave the lie to EU / Remainer claims that the EU had not encroached very greatly into our national fabric - something they repeatedly denied before the Referendum and then after - the vote going the 'wrong' way for them - they claimed the EU was so entrenched and integral to us that it would be impossible to leave it fully... :banghead: :ROFLMAO:

And you? Still claiming to be a friend of the UK, and proud of your anti-humanitarian and anti-law-abiding EU stances? Your masters have trained you well and must be very pleased with you... :yuck:
 
M-J-G

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Farm buy said:
It looks so childish to hear a person in Frosts position whinging about a deal he made with and backed by Borris and then come up with issues like the ECJ that were plain to see at the agreement
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You couldn't make it up.

Who needs Europe to make things difficult when you've got people at home who can do a much better job.
If this is what holding all the cards is like, I think that deck should be thrown in the fire, it's full of Jokers 🃏
 
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Other countries which have negotiated trade deals with Britain since Brexit, must be looking on with incredulity.
Others due to negotiate future deals, must be thinking why bother?
 

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