River Lugg, Herefordshire

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Bongodog

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When four chaps working for a firm 200 miles away who won the tender to do some local EA work rock up and then they have to wait half a day for another chap who is the only one with the chainsaw cert and not one of them realises they have put the stile in upside down you know the worlds f###ed
That seems to be the norm these days, something is wrong when a firm can win a contract 200 miles from home. Hear cases of pick ups on utility work doing 90000 miles a year whilst towing a mini digger. . That's basically a 40 hour week just driving. I reckon that must be £70k a year for the truck depreciation, fuel and drivers costs before they do any work.
 

steveR

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That seems to be the norm these days, something is wrong when a firm can win a contract 200 miles from home. Hear cases of pick ups on utility work doing 90000 miles a year whilst towing a mini digger. . That's basically a 40 hour week just driving. I reckon that must be £70k a year for the truck depreciation, fuel and drivers costs before they do any work.
Sounds like some of the Contractors carrying out manintenance on solar farms. Living on the road and like you say, mad distances.

STW sent in fencing contractors in here from 2.5hrs away away, they arrived with no tools and no idea! Sat drinking tea, then went home...
 
Sounds like some of the Contractors carrying out manintenance on solar farms. Living on the road and like you say, mad distances.

STW sent in fencing contractors in here from 2.5hrs away away, they arrived with no tools and no idea! Sat drinking tea, then went home...
Nice work if you can get it 😂


As said, if much of this sort of sh!t is going on the country really is fekked☹️ Where is the management that is over seeing these jobs, there’s no way they can be remotely completely priced, they obviously have no concept of how much a job ought to cost nor presumably do they care as its not their money they’re spending...................makes you wonder what they’re like with money in their personal lives.
 

Bongodog

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Nice work if you can get it 😂


As said, if much of this sort of sh!t is going on the country really is fekked☹️ Where is the management that is over seeing these jobs, there’s no way they can be remotely completely priced, they obviously have no concept of how much a job ought to cost nor presumably do they care as its not their money they’re spending...................makes you wonder what they’re like with money in their personal lives.
It goes on all the time, in my early days on our parish Council it was down to the cllrs to find people to quote for work, the council was dominated by village farmers and tradesmen who had a good idea who was suited to which job and who would quote the least. Towards the end it was dominated by retired school teachers and such like who would accept any quote the clerk put in front of them. County highways were worse literally wanted a minimum of £5k to do anything
 

DaveGrohl

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Do you not understand? If the EA do the job properly, 25 people are employed on high wages contributing a huge amount to the economy. After all the surveys and assesments Jack would have been given the job after a prolonged tendering which he probably priced at x thousand as he does not want to faff about for these ****ers
As it is Jack has been sent down there with his 15 tonne machine earning a couple of grand a month and what has the economy gained apart from a a few packets of sarnies from the local garage? And he was probably working on red.
You must keep up at the back!
Imagine if those 25 people went and did sonething actually productive like ooh I don't know drive a wagon? Nah you're right, let's just continue the downward spiral to insanity.
 

onthehoof

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Cambs
Tree fell across the river a couple of weeks back
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This is the team they had to clear it, plus the guy behind the camera!
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Ffermer Bach

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Tree fell across the river a couple of weeks back
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This is the team they had to clear it, plus the guy behind the camera!View attachment 991184
Did you watch Born Mucky? Ally Hunter Blair moved a tree (admittedly it was not in the river, one man, telehandler & trailer, and 80 year old father along to see what was going on). I would have thought, moving that tree is a one man (possibly two man, to be on the safe side) job.
 

steveR

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It goes on all the time, in my early days on our parish Council it was down to the cllrs to find people to quote for work, the council was dominated by village farmers and tradesmen who had a good idea who was suited to which job and who would quote the least. Towards the end it was dominated by retired school teachers and such like who would accept any quote the clerk put in front of them. County highways were worse literally wanted a minimum of £5k to do anything
Well put. I have seen exactly the same in my local PC. As the new Clerk likes a simple life and doesn't have to be arsed to work for "best value"!
 
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CPF

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1 The volunteers
Now professionals .Now they come around and tell you how to get a tree out of a river.
2 The professional lumberjacks
3 Radio operator. Can you hear me lumberjack one.
4 Health and safety officers because they wear the black trousers
5 professional cameraman
6 Plus the consultants and advisors and the office staff who are in contact with the radio operator to see how the job is going on.
 

TheTallGuy

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Cambridgeshire
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1 The volunteers
Now professionals .Now they come around and tell you how to get a tree out of a river.
2 The professional lumberjacks
3 Radio operator. Can you hear me lumberjack one.
4 Health and safety officers because they wear the black trousers
5 professional cameraman
6 Plus the consultants and advisors and the office staff who are in contact with the radio operator to see how the job is going on.
They're not professional lumberjacks.... professionals don't use their saw as a spade...
 

Henarar

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Somerset
View attachment 991194
1 The volunteers
Now professionals .Now they come around and tell you how to get a tree out of a river.
2 The professional lumberjacks
3 Radio operator. Can you hear me lumberjack one.
4 Health and safety officers because they wear the black trousers
5 professional cameraman
6 Plus the consultants and advisors and the office staff who are in contact with the radio operator to see how the job is going on.
and farmers are told to be more efficient
 
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