Government Policy towards net Zero

Bald Rick

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Y Fan Wen

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75% of farmers in England will be engaged in low carbon practices by 2030, rising to 85% by 2035. Government is introducing farming schemes, including the new environmental land management schemes, which will provide a powerful vehicle for achieving net zero, and goals of the 25 Year Environment Plan.• Increase investment in industry-led research and development into solutions to help deliver net zero in agriculture and horticulture, including through the Farming Innovation Programme.• Treble woodland creation rates by the end of this Parliament, reflecting England’s
contribution to meeting the UK’s overall target of increasing planting rates to 30,000 hectares per year by the end of this Parliament and maintain new planting at least at this level from 2025 onwards. We will explore a long-term statutory tree target in England within the public consultation on Environment Bill targets. • We will boost the existing £640 million Nature for Climate Fund with a further £124 million of new money, ensuring total spend of more than £750 million by 2025 on peat restoration, woodland creation and management. This will enable more opportunities for farmers and landowners to support net zero through land use change.• Restore at least 35,000 hectares of peatlands in Englad by 2025, through the Nature for Climate Fund. Restore approximately 280,000 hectares of peat in England by 2050, including via funding from the new environmental land management schemes.• Mobilise private investment into tree planting, including through the Woodland Carbon Code, with the support of government’s Woodland Carbon Guarantee, and into peat restoration through implementing a package of reforms to the Peatland Code.
 

Y Fan Wen

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Year on year 30,000 hectares of tree planting in England!!
Which may become statutory....

What a time to be alive .... and I’m Welsh
Interesting to see how Cardiff react to this. Will they try to outdo the English on tree planting targets? I fear so. A 200 acre farm next door was planted in '06 and is shaping up nicely now 15 years on. I have heard the owner rents out his trees for offsetting. If the figures bandied about are real he could be getting 15k a year.
 
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Not only do I think this is impractical, I think it's quite dangerous for the people involved. A young person COULD live this way - I've done it as a single man in my 20s-30s I didn't have a car - but it leads to problems with shopping especially for food. In fact any activity becomes a problem and literally reduces your time available to do anything - because you spend so much time travelling.
Absolutely not practical for a family, especially a young family.
 

Hampton

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This is the craziest article I’ve ever read. It has basically ignored the whole point of eating local which also means eating seasonally.
in fact, the article completely ignores seasonality, save to say that if you are going to eat food outside uk season, you should eat the foreign in season equivalent!

bonkers
 

Still Farming

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Interesting to see how Cardiff react to this. Will they try to outdo the English on tree planting targets? I fear so. A 200 acre farm next door was planted in '06 and is shaping up nicely now 15 years on. I have heard the owner rents out his trees for offsetting. If the figures bandied about are real he could be getting 15k a year.
They won't have too.
All the most polluting companies would of beat them too it .
 

Poorbuthappy

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Interesting to see how Cardiff react to this. Will they try to outdo the English on tree planting targets? I fear so. A 200 acre farm next door was planted in '06 and is shaping up nicely now 15 years on. I have heard the owner rents out his trees for offsetting. If the figures bandied about are real he could be getting 15k a year.
And the sad thing is its probably doing naff all to stop climate change.
 
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Although they state Solar & Wind are the main stay of generation - that's not possible as we know this year. So that means we are going to have a lot more Nuclear Power stations. I bet they won't be in Bristol, Oxford, Cambridge or London.
 

Still Farming

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Coincide with this TV ads allegedly is it.
 

ski

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My answer:

Patience

I am going large on patience ( cue laughing wife) as eventually "the rubber will hit the road" either we will see it is all very urgent or as I suspect, a mostly cult like addiction created by, I have no idea.

"Patience is the ability to endure difficult circumstances. Patience may involve perseverance in the face of delay; tolerance of provocation without responding in disrespect/anger; or forbearance when under strain, especially when faced with longer-term difficulties."
 
Small progress I know, but the BBC is saying that farming is only responsible for 10% of emissions.


A couple of points.

The figures are Agriculture AND Land Use, Land Use Change. Which inclides the figures associated with turning Grassland into Houses for example.

Whilst a large -ve figure has been calculated for Forestry, I didn't see any -ve figures in any of the data associated with Agriculture - which by definition that Farms have so many trees and hedges - cannot be correct.
 

Y Fan Wen

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Although they state Solar & Wind are the main stay of generation - that's not possible as we know this year. So that means we are going to have a lot more Nuclear Power stations. I bet they won't be in Bristol, Oxford, Cambridge or London.
The most important thing about siting any thermal station is the cooling water. Hence all except one nuclear stations are on the coast. Trawsfynydd was the exception which would fit the lake 'cos it was only 800Mw. Any bigger and the lake wouldn't have coped in warm weather.
 
My answer:

Patience

I am going large on patience ( cue laughing wife) as eventually "the rubber will hit the road" either we will see it is all very urgent or as I suspect, a mostly cult like addiction created by, I have no idea.

"Patience is the ability to endure difficult circumstances. Patience may involve perseverance in the face of delay; tolerance of provocation without responding in disrespect/anger; or forbearance when under strain, especially when faced with longer-term difficulties."


Yes. I thought similar with just the fact they are going to tax Gas and ban Gas boilers - with the cheapest alternative being £10,000

There's 25,000,000 gas boilers so the minimum public spend will be £250 Billion. So we can "Show the rest of the world how it's done".

I think most people will not agree and will vote accordingly.
 

SFI - What % were you taking out of production?

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Red Tractor drops launch of green farming scheme amid anger from farmers

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As reported in Independent


quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

read the TFF thread here: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/gfc-was-to-go-ahead-now-not-going-ahead.405234/
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