Fertilizer replacement

Jabk

Member
The p and k was fine and so was the pH was fine aswell clover was drilled with the hybrid then stitched in the following year with no success
 

Flatlander

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lorette Manitoba
I drilled some alfalfa for a neighbour last year. Went in very good and used oats as a cover to hold weeds down and give him a crop while alfalfa got established. Next to no alfalfa grew but oats did fine. He wasn’t very happy with me but this spring it germinated and now it’s a good stand. It fed an un believable amount of grasshoppers until I sprayed them lol. been told it’s common that being dry will stop legumes from germinating even if planted in moisture they will need a wet dry wet cycle to grow. Not sure it it’s true thou
 

Jabk

Member
I'm not that computer minded just about got on here lol there is ones selling ammonia sulfate here for 90 pound a cube but I don't know of anyone using it
 

Flatlander

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lorette Manitoba
What's this liquid stuff the coop is selling , farmer said today it's costing him £16 to put 40 units of N on , came in a tank today UBC thing
Could be anhydrous ammonia. It’s usually cheaper but not user friendly. You’d need a way of injecting into the ground and closing the slot behind the point to seal it in. Great way to damage lungs if it goes wrong.
 

Flatlander

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lorette Manitoba
We are all going to be impacted with high fertilizer prices are any of you doing anything out of the ordinary to try and make it more efficient. I broadcast urea and incorporate it same day or drill it in three inches deep. Prefer the drill method but takes time But head and shoulder better. Also tried nitrogen inhibitors but came to the conclusions that the money was better spent on extra N and allow for gassing off
 

neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
Needs to be land that does not hang wet. Needs reasonable P and K values and pH sorted in my opinion.

+1. Unless you have deep, free draining alkaline soils without much rainfall then there will be better options I’d have thought.

I suspect it’s not really a crop that’s going to make inroads in Northern Ireland😂, or not until some serious climate change has occurred anyway.
 

Lewis

Member
Livestock Farmer
Would a grain/silage trailer load of chicken litter/broiler muck tipped into a dairy slurry lagoon mixed in make the slurry any more potent with N ?

Got a 100,000gal reception pit I could incorporate it into before pumping into tower for spring/summer application.
Or is this a stupid idea.... 🤷🏼‍♂️😆
 

Jabk

Member
+1. Unless you have deep, free draining alkaline soils without much rainfall then there will be better options I’d have thought.

I suspect it’s not really a crop that’s going to make inroads in Northern Ireland😂, or not until some serious climate change has occurred anyway.
Definitely don't think Lucerne is suitable for or area
 

Flatlander

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lorette Manitoba
Would a grain/silage trailer load of chicken litter/broiler muck tipped into a dairy slurry lagoon mixed in make the slurry any more potent with N ?

Got a 100,000gal reception pit I could incorporate it into before pumping into tower for spring/summer application.
Or is this a stupid idea.... 🤷🏼‍♂️😆
Would be ideal situation I’d think. Just diluting it down one way and beefing it the other. Chicken muck was always too rich and needed spreading sparingly to get the most out of it. Mixing it in slurry seems an ideal way.
 

neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
Would a grain/silage trailer load of chicken litter/broiler muck tipped into a dairy slurry lagoon mixed in make the slurry any more potent with N ?

Got a 100,000gal reception pit I could incorporate it into before pumping into tower for spring/summer application.
Or is this a stupid idea.... 🤷🏼‍♂️😆

I think you’ll need more than a trailer load to make much difference. In principle though, if you have enough storage space, I can’t see how you can go wrong. Better still if you can take the chicken muck when it’s wet, and nobody else wants to take it (& free!).
 

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