BBC at it again re meat and climate

BrianV

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Dartmoor
Food waste, now there's a thing. Just Googled UK statics, take a optimistic 15% waste.
So of the 10% so called emmitions from ag, 15% is unnecessarily just completely lost.
Ah yes but as we are now less than 60% self sufficient in food to feed ourselves then a lot of that waste pollution comes from overseas.
 

texelburger

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Herefordshire
Less than 20 years. Somewhere between 12 - 14 years calculated by most accurate methods. And let's not forget methanophages. They are the heroes when it comes to Earth's regulation of methane from living things within its cycle. Our livestock are part of nature.
My near neighbour,a Dr of some sort of science told me Methane breaks down to Carbon Dioxide after 10 to 12 years,so similar to what you are saying.
 

Oldmacdonald

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Scotland
You may wish to inform the US EPA as they place it's atmospheric life at 12.4 years.

EPA

That's interesting.

I took my source from wikipedia which cites this source:

Climate Change 2013: The Physical Science Basis: Working Group I Contribution to the Fifth Assessment Report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change​


Which strangle is also the same one listed on your EPA page.
 

Muck Spreader

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin
A couple of very interesting comments from the global food expert Julian Mellentin on Bill Gates foray into lab meat.

"I can now add that Gates lab-meat and meat substitute investments are looking sick. He sold his shares in Beyond Meat (now losing money, shares tanking) and his Upside Foods lab-meat investment isn't looking too smart. Bill Gates knows as much about food as I do about software"

"Lab-grown chickens coming home to roost? Chief Science Office & Ops Director of a company whose investors include Bill Gates & Richard Branson have quit. After $200 million of investment, it has failed to make lab meat commercially viable (in 2016 it promised to do this by 2021)"


Oh dear! 😁
 

PostHarvest

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Location
Warwick
Arni given up his Hummer to drive electric
Yes - another ignorant hypocrite. Arnie stated in an interview that he has had his 300hp diesel powered HumVee converted and it now has a 500 hp electric motor. So it uses 40% MORE energy which has to come from somewhere. It's probably lugging around at least 1/2 ton of dead weight in the form of a massive battery to feed that 500 hp motor. And the battery will be stuffed with lithium which is obtained by massive mining operations which most likely are powered by diesel fuel. More Green misinformation.
 

melted welly

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Arable Farmer
Location
DD9.
Are you saying that regardless of how many runinants are in the world, the methane level from them would remain at a constant level?
why should what happens on a global scale influence what is happening on a domestic scale?

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uk figures are at odds with generalised “global” figures.

There is a notable exception though

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perhaps the reason aviation has such a small contribution is because the emissions don’t count if they filled up the plane somewhere else. 🤔
 

tepapa

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Livestock Farmer
Location
North Wales
Until it's all a level playing field, ag will always be a victim.

How can it be ok for aviation to plant farmland to call themselves carbon neutral but farmers can't offset their own carbon on their own land.

Oh ye because big business isn't involved to make large profits shoveling money into their own bank accounts.

Why aren't the NFU AHDB shouting about us being carbon neutral instead of apologising for being the problem?
 

Cheesehead

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Kent
That's interesting.

I took my source from wikipedia which cites this source:

Climate Change 2013: The Physical Science Basis: Working Group I Contribution to the Fifth Assessment Report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change​


Which strangle is also the same one listed on your EPA page.
A lot of it comes down to better methods of testing and measuring much the same as with the older methods of soil testing and the newer methods that give a more accurate reading of what the crop can utilize.
 

Bald Rick

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Anglesey
The other thing that people seem to forget is that it's bollox. So we shut down UK ag, GHG emissions fall by 10% do they ? I don't think so. Everybody, stop talking in percentages, change the narrative.

It's a thing ..... Eco-Friendly sex


Every day is a school day ... especially when you read on and realise that the "sex" bit of the article actual forms very little
 

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