Drill and Price Comparisons

Jerry · Nov 16, 2021

Just been speaking to a few people over the last couple weeks about a 3m drill to work across a mixed farm, so cereal, cover crops, fodder crops, stewardship and a bit of grass.

Now the grant numbers are out, if I am right, its £12,054 contribution toearsd the drill..

Net prices are as follows:
Erth Agriseeder 24 row with 750l hopper: £10.9k
Simtech TSum - 300 20 row: £19.9k
Moore Unidril 24 Row with tramlining: £16k

Having talked to users of each there are obviousl pros and cons to each drill.

The Simtech seems to be the best spec'd and I like the tine, not so sure about th 20 row set up though.
Erth is a good basic drill and having spoken to the designer he sounds very switch on, just not seen one in the flesh
Moore is a disc set up, not sure how that will work in a wide range of conditions compared to a tine drill. Like the guttler though and seems well built.

Soil type is sandy with a few spots of clay, very very few stones, But soil is very abrasive.

The Erth seems a cheap drill but is the Simtech worth the premium?

SilliamWhale · Nov 16, 2021

You can't drill much corn with an erth

Jerry · Nov 16, 2021

SilliamWhale said:
You can't drill much corn with an erth

interesting, why do you say that? Spoken to a few that do and seem happy enough.

SilliamWhale · Nov 16, 2021

Jerry said:
interesting, why do you say that? Spoken to a few that do and seem happy enough.

Looks a small hopper from website

Jerry · Nov 16, 2021

SilliamWhale said:
Looks a small hopper from website

price above included a 750l hopper

hally · Nov 16, 2021

Erth runs vaddy Coulter’s and discs so I don’t see why not.

JumboUk · Nov 16, 2021

I've a 3m simtech near you, if you think I can help in any way send me a message

Jerry · Nov 16, 2021

JumboUk said:
I've a 3m simtech near you, if you think I can help in any way send me a message

I have been given a couple local contacts but need to follow them up.

Cows 'n grass · Nov 16, 2021

Direct drill for precision drilling of arable and cover crops, using either tines or discs to produce the seeding slot. To be eligible the drill must have a minimum drilling width of 2.9 m, must have no cultivation or seed bed preparation equipment in front of the seeding slot mechanism and the seed must be placed in the seeding slot. The drill must be able to drill through a fully established growing cover crop of at least 15 cm in height. Purchase must include seed hoppers. The drill must be able to drill the full range of arable and cover crops including cereals. The following are not eligible: Cultivators with over-seeders or broadcasters, minimum till drills, strip till drills, grassland over-seeders, and grassland broadcasters.

It seems crazy that a Claydon wouldn't be eligible

Cows 'n grass · Nov 16, 2021

Jerry said:
Just been speaking to a few people over the last couple weeks about a 3m drill to work across a mixed farm, so cereal, cover crops, fodder crops, stewardship and a bit of grass.

Now the grant numbers are out, if I am right, its £12,054 contribution toearsd the drill..

Net prices are as follows:
Erth Agriseeder 24 row with 750l hopper: £10.9k
Simtech TSum - 300 20 row: £19.9k
Moore Unidril 24 Row with tramlining: £16k

Having talked to users of each there are obviousl pros and cons to each drill.

The Simtech seems to be the best spec'd and I like the tine, not so sure about th 20 row set up though.
Erth is a good basic drill and having spoken to the designer he sounds very switch on, just not seen one in the flesh
Moore is a disc set up, not sure how that will work in a wide range of conditions compared to a tine drill. Like the guttler though and seems well built.

Soil type is sandy with a few spots of clay, very very few stones, But soil is very abrasive.

The Erth seems a cheap drill but is the Simtech worth the premium?

Is that an upto date price on the Simtec? I thought it was more than that when I had a price last year.

Jerry · Nov 16, 2021

Cows 'n grass said:
Direct drill for precision drilling of arable and cover crops, using either tines or discs to produce the seeding slot. To be eligible the drill must have a minimum drilling width of 2.9 m, must have no cultivation or seed bed preparation equipment in front of the seeding slot mechanism and the seed must be placed in the seeding slot. The drill must be able to drill through a fully established growing cover crop of at least 15 cm in height. Purchase must include seed hoppers. The drill must be able to drill the full range of arable and cover crops including cereals. The following are not eligible: Cultivators with over-seeders or broadcasters, minimum till drills, strip till drills, grassland over-seeders, and grassland broadcasters.

It seems crazy that a Simtec wouldn't be eligible

Simtech is eligible

Jerry · Nov 16, 2021

Cows 'n grass said:
Is that an upto date price on the Simtec? I thought it was more than that when I had a price last year.

Yes. Today’s price

T-Sem 300

jackrussell101 · Nov 16, 2021

Just out of interest how much is the Simtech TSG 300?

The grass onebelieve that can drill corn too but has a small hopper

Cows 'n grass · Nov 16, 2021

Jerry said:
Simtech is eligible

Too many 4am starts recently, in my head I was saying/writing/reading Claydon.

I've edited it now

Jerry · Nov 16, 2021

Cows 'n grass said:
Too many 4am starts recently, in my head I was saying/writing/reading Claydon.

I've edited it now

Claydon is viewed as a strip drill, not direct. But yes i agree.

Cows 'n grass · Nov 16, 2021

Jerry said:
Claydon is viewed as a strip drill, not direct. But yes i agree.

Claydon drills are my only experience of dd but I'm quite tempted by a Simtec again now.

My contractor has a Claydon and a close row space Moore disc drill. I feel the Simtec is a slight comprise and might not be as good as the Claydon on the cereals and brassicas and might be not quite as good as the Moore on grass seeds but with ever shortening weather windows I'm taking more jobs back in hand at the moment.

DefenderDave · Nov 16, 2021

Would a 3m triton be eligible for this?

AndrewM · Nov 16, 2021

Jerry said:
Just been speaking to a few people over the last couple weeks about a 3m drill to work across a mixed farm, so cereal, cover crops, fodder crops, stewardship and a bit of grass.

Now the grant numbers are out, if I am right, its £12,054 contribution toearsd the drill..

Net prices are as follows:
Erth Agriseeder 24 row with 750l hopper: £10.9k
Simtech TSum - 300 20 row: £19.9k
Moore Unidril 24 Row with tramlining: £16k

Having talked to users of each there are obviousl pros and cons to each drill.

The Simtech seems to be the best spec'd and I like the tine, not so sure about th 20 row set up though.
Erth is a good basic drill and having spoken to the designer he sounds very switch on, just not seen one in the flesh
Moore is a disc set up, not sure how that will work in a wide range of conditions compared to a tine drill. Like the guttler though and seems well built.

Soil type is sandy with a few spots of clay, very very few stones, But soil is very abrasive.

The Erth seems a cheap drill but is the Simtech worth the premium?

so thats the drill price after you deduct the grant?

Bury the Trash · Nov 16, 2021

AndrewM said:
so thats the drill price after you deduct the grant?

yes , as he says Net , else you would be getting 'cashback' on the erth

David. · Nov 17, 2021

Why isn't the T sem a strip-till, I thought that is exactly what it is?

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