Sustainable Farming Incentive: how the scheme will work in 2022

Sustainable farming incentive details published today 2 December 2021

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Why did you not work and listen to farmers before setting it up?
Not like it was just know last week that bps was going.
But I guess more trendy to take advice from anti farming (especially anti meat) groups instead.
Fair question - we did, and we continue to do that, but that doesn't mean we will get things perfectly right first time - we will be learning, iterating and improving all the way through the transition, and you should see things continuously improving throughout that time. We think that is a better approach than trying to launch everything in a big bang, which is much more likely to result in failure of one sort or another.
 
Hi Janet,

In the Policy paper released yesterday there is the following passage:

‘Where someone only has access to land under a licence arrangement (a licensee) it is unlikely they will have sufficient management control of the land for it to be eligible for SFI.’

We farm under license from a government body and have been able to claim BPS. Please can you confirm that if we were eligible for BPS, we will also be eligible for SFI?

Following on from this, our license agreement contains some SSSI prescriptions that could preclude us claiming SFI options and payments.

Under previous stewardship schemes, DEFRA has not paid for any action which is prescribed for in a tenancy or license agreement.

Will an general exemption to this rule be made in ELMS for tenants and licensees of public bodies?
You seem to satisfy the BPS-eligible requirement for SFI. But you also need to have sufficient management control of the land to deliver the agreement. In most cases, licenses won’t give sufficient management control. But we are aware of some cases (e.g. on MOD land) where the licences give a higher level of control, similar to a tenancy agreement. This is something we’ll explore before the scheme launches, to see whether we can enable farmers with shorter or different types of agreements to participate in the scheme.

Under SFI, we’ll pay for the actions as set out in the standards. You’ll need to do all the actions in any given level of a standard (we won’t tailor agreements individually).

If you have a SSSI, as part of the SFI application process you will need to get relevant regulatory permission from Natural England. We're working with NE to make this as straightforward as possible for people coming into SFI.
 

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I know this is kind of off topic, but I've often thought old farm buildings were wildlife friendly. There can't be many left that haven't been clinically modernised, or converted into holiday cottages.
Grants for preserving old farm buildings/ farmsteads could be handy ?

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Please don't take this personally, because it is genuinely aimed at Defra as a whole:

The arrogance in this attitude towards farmers and their understanding of their soil is breathtaking. Matched only by the complete and utter pointlessness of a measure which, by your own admission, is not tied in any way to the payment.
Sorry not to have been clear, I meant that the payment is not related to the results of the test. The payment for the standard includes payment for taking the test. The point of the test is to inform the farmer, not to provide data for Defra to use as the basis for checking up on people.
 
How long before the published payment rates are reviewed? They don't look very competitive when compared to commercial farming. Does it reflect defra's opinion that farm profitability will remain at levels we have seen over the last few years? What I mean is that in 10 year's time I hope we will be doing better than we are at the moment which will mean the payment for these various options will be very unattractive.
We've said we'll keep the standards and rates under review - 'We will review payment rates at regular intervals and, when necessary, adapt them for future rounds of the scheme to ensure they remain fair, attractive and good value for money.'
 

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Sorry not to have been clear, I meant that the payment is not related to the results of the test. The payment for the standard includes payment for taking the test. The point of the test is to inform the farmer, not to provide data for Defra to use as the basis for checking up on people.

Yeah, I understood your initial posts, the SFI payment isn't related to the results, got that.
My point was that I see no public good in making farmers spend time and money on testing their som in order to receive that payment.
 
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@Janet Hughes Defra that is encouraging to hear, do we know if we will HAVE to collaborate with other land managers to enter a local nature recovery scheme?
Also can you please put something like a cap in place to stop the massive estates swallowing all the cash? If I farmed 1000 acres how I farm 200 acres then I wouldn't need any subsidies.
No you won't have to collaborate with other farmers to go into local nature recovery - it will work like CS does now, with options you can choose, but with a wider range of options and some options selected based on local suitability and priorities (eg coastal habitat restoration in coastal areas).
We're not planning to put a cap in place, but we are designing schemes to make them as accessible and relevant as possible to all kinds of farms, including small farms.
 
Here's a question for @Janet Hughes Defra

Are the terms and conditions for the full roll out of SFI going to be the same as they were for the pilot scheme, where you expect farmers to sign up to a binding agreement that gives DEFRA the right to change whatever it wants in an agreement, whenever it wants to? 'Cos frankly, that's going to put a hell of a lot of people off the idea.


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No, they won't be the same, we’re reviewing the entire end to end process, including terms and conditions, based on what we’ve learned in the pilot so far. We'll publish new Ts&Cs before the scheme starts so you can see exactly what you're entering into. I've noted this feedback from you and others, and we're reviewing this point as part of our overall review.
 
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