@Janet Hughes Defra is tis correct?Weighted payments is the one big thing they are yet to address. They will get there.
@Janet Hughes Defra is tis correct?Weighted payments is the one big thing they are yet to address. They will get there.
Well I agree with you and actually on the arable it's at least as bad. I have been in HLS for 10 years and I have finally got the hang of fitting stuff into my system to make it work for me and still get paid for what is basically a low risk low reward crop.@Humble Village Farmer I am interested in your calculations that the published SFI payment rates are in any way competitive leave alone not very, when compared with commercial farming particularly on an all grass farm. How much per hectare would it be worth to you to hand over substantial elements of the management of your land to the civil service?
We're not planning on doing this, no@Janet Hughes Defra is tis correct?
ok...in which case i take back most of the negative things i've said......for now
BTW is there a possibility of grants for extra high sheep fencing ....asking for a friend
Me, when he accused me of the same thing he is doing.who made you judge/jury/executioner
uncalled for 'jog on'
We're not gathering the data from the tests and have no intention of using it in that way.
Yes, there are measurable outcomes from winter cover, organic matter and green cover. Also, assuming by 2028 the soil standards cover 50% to 70% of eligible agricultural soil in England, this could save approximately 330 to 460 thousand tonnes of CO2 equivalent in 2028.
ok I think I'm up to date with questions - there are 1 or 2 I need to come back to on Monday.
I'm going to be going offline now - I'll be back on Monday morning and will pick up any further questions then.
Thanks all
@Janet Hughes DefraWe will be introducing a standard for low and no input grassland, along with other standards covering a range of other things, between now and 2025 - for now we continue to have options in CS, and we'll be publishing updated payment rates for those in the new year.
Me, when he accused me of the same thing he is doing.
Chopping straw qualifies as om.I must be missing something here. £22/ha even £40/ha is going to get swallowed up rather quickly. Applying om to 1/3rd of our land every year!? Thats over 150Ha! Where on earth am I going to find that sort of product...oh and then the cost...Instead I plant a green cover but then I'm losing financially because I'm having to grow more spring crops. Seems to me all these payments will do is go someway to paying for the hoops that are set out for us. I genuinely cant see how i will financially be better off from being in the sfi. I must be missing something but it looks like a very easy decision to say no thanks?
But the government thinks there is some value in this, so they are funding it. I suspect they hope farmers will be interested in the results.Yeah, I understood your initial posts, the SFI payment isn't related to the results, got that.
My point was that I see no public good in making farmers spend time and money on testing their som in order to receive that payment.
You're out of date the new payment rate is only £40/Ha.I bet our lord and master here on TFF is behind this soils standard being the first one that is rolled out, no coincidence that it fits his farming methods perfectly.........what it is to have friends in high places. £58/ha over a few 1000 acres should pay for another sports car I expect. The direct drilling god giveth CO2 savings, and the Porsche Owners club taketh them away again........ I fully expect the next SFI standard to be a special annual payment for all Fendt owners, based on the amount of fuel they create from unicorn farts. If the final one is a payment for anyone who isn't a member of the NFU we'll definitely know who has been writing the SFI rule book
I bet our lord and master here on TFF is behind this soils standard being the first one that is rolled out, no coincidence that it fits his farming methods perfectly.........what it is to have friends in high places. £58/ha over a few 1000 acres should pay for another sports car I expect. The direct drilling god giveth CO2 savings, and the Porsche Owners club taketh them away again........ I fully expect the next SFI standard to be a special annual payment for all Fendt owners, based on the amount of fuel they create from unicorn farts. If the final one is a payment for anyone who isn't a member of the NFU we'll definitely know who has been writing the SFI rule book
Have a look at the "ambition" for the Advanced Level Soil Management (TBC)Aren't the new standards moving away from the DD sub ? My reading of it is that those who were working hard behind the scenes to achieve this have been sussed ?
Guessing you're 100% arable?Thanks for that. Yes, you will drop it in time. Same as the attempt to subsidize DD over other crop establishment techniques. It will all go in time. Sanity will prevail. All area based payments need to go to PP. We will get there.