Tarw Coch
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- Location
- Bottom of Wats Dyke
Plans can change
ELMS terms & conditions re Red Tractor
- Thread starter BrianV
- Start date
And I'm quite sure when she said it, it was true, and sincerely meant.
Government departments however I wouldn’t trust as far as I could throw them. Ever.
- Location
- Northumberlandia
No Reason none of us cant pay them by BACS for ever.
Back to OP its been rumoured in our T&T group that there is a fair chance ELMS could be self governing...
Her name is Janet.
.Why bother with ELMS at all ? It's bugger all money ?
It will amount about to £130-150/ha when everything is added in.
£52 per acre. Bugger all.
At the moment that's 250 kilos of Barley an acre ,I think you might lose far more than that if you sign up to everything to get that amount of ELMS payments
- Location
- People's Republic of South Yorkshire
Don't trust them either...
Had 1 for hls all happy on day, asked me questions about a few things. All OK I thought.
Next thing massive fine comes through....
Mainly due to points we discussed, including some trees that were not even on our land, which I told the inspector it was not our land !!
Result, battle to get it overturned, which I did win.
But never trusted inspectors since.
The issue that @Janet Hughes Defra has now is this:
- They have amended the arable standards (having accepted that there is no public good in subbing one form of crop establishment over others) such that anyone growing an arable crop is now eligible.
- Having done this, they have had to reduce the payment rates per Ha, as otherwise there wont be enough money to go round.
- These rates are now so low that it's not worth the aggravation.
- The only way out of this, the thing that Defra should have understood from the outset and now really do need to acknowledge, is that there should be no area payments on arable land.
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
I wouldn't be so sure. DEFRA have suggested that the 'subbing of DD' will be in the advanced arable standards, so presumably paying a larger amount of money.
Our (Welsh) SFP is only £65/ac now. I'm already doing most of what would tick the SFI boxes, and wouldn't have to change much to tick the rest. IF we ended up with the same scheme, I'd not be too upset to get £52/ac, on top of various grant schemes and other support packages.
It could be a lot worse tbh.
Ploughing should be taxed
- Location
- People's Republic of South Yorkshire
It already is by the diesel needed to plough and then power Harrow it..
No plough, 1/2 our farm not viable as dd don't work on our soils.
yellow belly
Member
- Location
- south west lincolnshire
no chance
my redtractor inspection takes less than a morning
the last 2 stewaredship inspections took over a week on the farm
yellow belly
Member
- Location
- south west lincolnshire
my plan for a renewal of stewardship is more than £70 and acre but would then exclude us from growing osr till 2029
if the inspection regime is less onerous than els /hls then that will be a bonus
Wont happen. Even if there was public good in it, which there isn't, the pot isn't big enough. There is a dawning realization that they have to put more money towards PP. A lot more. Likewise watercourse protection, and probably hedgerows. There's nothing left then for arable area payments, DD or otherwise. Which is fine.
- Location
- Warwickshire
Please explain this statement
DEFRA have a tender out at the moment for Satelite Imagery monitoring for environmental schemes
bidstats.uk
Satellite Imagery Proof of Concept for Agri-Environmental Monitoring [Notice]
Proof of Concept for Sustainable Farming Incentive (SFI) standard monitoring and crop mapping using ... A Tender Notice by DEFRA Network Etendering Portal. Value £100K.
I was stirring. As someone else said it’s already expensive to do.