Telehandler vs tractor for daily chores ?

cousinjack

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Cornwall
What makes you think depreciation on a telehandler is so much higher than a tractor loader?

530/70 JCB here cost £27k in 2003 with 1700hrs at 2yo. Its now done 11600hrs and is still worth £12k. £1.51/hr
TM300 bought new in 2005 was £48k. Sold 2020 with 11800hrs for £16200. £2.69/hr
536/70 bought 2017 with 5000hrs for £33k sold 2021 with 7600hrs for £26k = £2.69/hr

Not often I have a tractor do a similar amount of work and cost less than 4 quid a clock hour in depreciation.

Assumption can be expensive!
Very good point…

I don’t think our handler actually owes us anything…. It has been very reliable over the years…
 

steveR

Member
Mixed Farmer
Perfect solution. (however not cheap!)

I had an earlier iteration of one of these, astonishingly good and tough machine. Reach was the only issue, so we now have a small tele Kramer. :)

I do remember loading a regular grain wagon withe old girl and a toe tip bucket. The driver had timed me secretly, and reckoned it was a lot quicker than side arm teles, which did surprise me. His theory was so much time was being spent on booming in and out???
 

tullah

Member
Location
Linconshire
What makes you think depreciation on a telehandler is so much higher than a tractor loader?

530/70 JCB here cost £27k in 2003 with 1700hrs at 2yo. Its now done 11600hrs and is still worth £12k. £1.51/hr
TM300 bought new in 2005 was £48k. Sold 2020 with 11800hrs for £16200. £2.69/hr
536/70 bought 2017 with 5000hrs for £33k sold 2021 with 7600hrs for £26k = £2.69/hr

Not often I have a tractor do a similar amount of work and cost less than 4 quid a clock hour in depreciation.

Assumption can be expensive!
But that's not £4 an hour adjusted for inflation. I bought a new car back in 1975 for £1500 and sold it last year for £1500. Shows no depreciation in pounds but it's big depreciation in real terms.
 

Lowland1

Member
Mixed Farmer
I have a JCB 531-70 that has 11000 hours a Claas Scorpion 7045 on 7200 hours both load muck and soil and handle potatoes in the fields both do 1500 hours or more a year but more pertinent to this is our 1980 Manitou Mb 25M which works everyday loading Veg and Potatoes in and out of the store. It cost me £3000 a few years ago but it’s brilliant. I’m with my son on the tractor and loader thing if you want to handle things well get a proper machine.
 

Spud

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Arable Farmer
Location
YO62
But that's not £4 an hour adjusted for inflation. I bought a new car back in 1975 for £1500 and sold it last year for £1500. Shows no depreciation in pounds but it's big depreciation in real terms.
Fair enough, but the principle stands - inflation affects the tractor as much as the tele
 

Wellytrack

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Spud

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
YO62
I had an earlier iteration of one of these, astonishingly good and tough machine. Reach was the only issue, so we now have a small tele Kramer. :)

I do remember loading a regular grain wagon withe old girl and a toe tip bucket. The driver had timed me secretly, and reckoned it was a lot quicker than side arm teles, which did surprise me. His theory was so much time was being spent on booming in and out???
I find a lot of time is lost by people shaking the bucket, when full & empty. Master that and loading time is halved.
 
We used to fatten 80 bullocks through the winter and rear on 8lves without starting an engine for 6 months. They ate silage off the clamp face in the shed. Bedded with 8 small bales morning and night off the stack next to pen shaken out using hayforks. A few tumbrels about for bags of cake walked in on your back.😉😄
Begs the question why did you stop doing it:unsure:.😆
 

collywol

Member
Too crude...? I looked at one a couple of years ago as I was on the yard.

Built to a price.... which is a hell of a lot less than mainstream kit! I was interested to see some OK reviews for them from real users.

Probably not like living in muck and silage effluent... but what does ;)
Not really crude, seemed well built, I think it was a 2ton machine but couldnt lift 2 6ookg bags up against the headstock. Just didn’t do what was claimed. Had a couple of hundred hrs on it so I don’t think it was faulty. Maybe okay for a builders yard for a bucket or two of sand,or horse yard. Just my view 😀
 

essexpete

Member
Location
Essex
All this hate towards front loaders! I'd have a front loader tractor over telehandler any day! Yes, most of my work revolves around moving/delivering bales and roadwork so a front loader suits me better, but would still rather have the comfort, road speed, high up seat and power than the manoeuvrability.
The OP really was talking yard use. A fiend of mine runs a fairly modern NH with a big loader. It really is quite awesome in capability both from a driving and handling point of view. He would still prefer a telehandler around the yard if additional cost could be justified. The modern tractor with clutch-less shuttle and brake to stop plus auto/vario is so much different to a manual tractor based on a 1960s design.
 

Spud

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
YO62
exactly, 27000 in 2003 is actually 38,740 in todays money
What's that got to do with comparing tractor loaders and telehandlers? Absolutely nothing, because I paid 27 for it, not 38.

Ok I'll humour you.

£38740 - £12000 worth today / 11600hrs is STILL only £2.28/hr.
 

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