michael N123
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All my yard works done with a 2 speed skidsteer
Very good point…What makes you think depreciation on a telehandler is so much higher than a tractor loader?
530/70 JCB here cost £27k in 2003 with 1700hrs at 2yo. Its now done 11600hrs and is still worth £12k. £1.51/hr
TM300 bought new in 2005 was £48k. Sold 2020 with 11800hrs for £16200. £2.69/hr
536/70 bought 2017 with 5000hrs for £33k sold 2021 with 7600hrs for £26k = £2.69/hr
Not often I have a tractor do a similar amount of work and cost less than 4 quid a clock hour in depreciation.
Assumption can be expensive!
I had an earlier iteration of one of these, astonishingly good and tough machine. Reach was the only issue, so we now have a small tele Kramer.Perfect solution. (however not cheap!)
I think there is a hidden message in this post, but I am not brave enough to pursue it....Each to their own I bought a second hand telehandler it was more like having a second wife ,it Was temperamental cost an absolute fortune to run and when you really needed it it said no. Can’t beat a good loader tractor but that’s just for my situation.
But that's not £4 an hour adjusted for inflation. I bought a new car back in 1975 for £1500 and sold it last year for £1500. Shows no depreciation in pounds but it's big depreciation in real terms.What makes you think depreciation on a telehandler is so much higher than a tractor loader?
530/70 JCB here cost £27k in 2003 with 1700hrs at 2yo. Its now done 11600hrs and is still worth £12k. £1.51/hr
TM300 bought new in 2005 was £48k. Sold 2020 with 11800hrs for £16200. £2.69/hr
536/70 bought 2017 with 5000hrs for £33k sold 2021 with 7600hrs for £26k = £2.69/hr
Not often I have a tractor do a similar amount of work and cost less than 4 quid a clock hour in depreciation.
Assumption can be expensive!
Fair enough, but the principle stands - inflation affects the tractor as much as the teleBut that's not £4 an hour adjusted for inflation. I bought a new car back in 1975 for £1500 and sold it last year for £1500. Shows no depreciation in pounds but it's big depreciation in real terms.
I find a lot of time is lost by people shaking the bucket, when full & empty. Master that and loading time is halved.I had an earlier iteration of one of these, astonishingly good and tough machine. Reach was the only issue, so we now have a small tele Kramer.
I do remember loading a regular grain wagon withe old girl and a toe tip bucket. The driver had timed me secretly, and reckoned it was a lot quicker than side arm teles, which did surprise me. His theory was so much time was being spent on booming in and out???
True. If new prices were constant then we'd see real depreciation.Fair enough, but the principle stands - inflation affects the tractor as much as the tele
Begs the question why did you stop doing it.We used to fatten 80 bullocks through the winter and rear on 8lves without starting an engine for 6 months. They ate silage off the clamp face in the shed. Bedded with 8 small bales morning and night off the stack next to pen shaken out using hayforks. A few tumbrels about for bags of cake walked in on your back.
You need a older telehander, our Sanderson goes that long between fueling that I forget where to fill it up (fuel guage long stopped working)
Not really crude, seemed well built, I think it was a 2ton machine but couldnt lift 2 6ookg bags up against the headstock. Just didn’t do what was claimed. Had a couple of hundred hrs on it so I don’t think it was faulty. Maybe okay for a builders yard for a bucket or two of sand,or horse yard. Just my viewToo crude...? I looked at one a couple of years ago as I was on the yard.
Built to a price.... which is a hell of a lot less than mainstream kit! I was interested to see some OK reviews for them from real users.
Probably not like living in muck and silage effluent... but what does
exactly, 27000 in 2003 is actually 38,740 in todays moneyBut that's not £4 an hour adjusted for inflation. I bought a new car back in 1975 for £1500 and sold it last year for £1500. Shows no depreciation in pounds but it's big depreciation in real terms.
The OP really was talking yard use. A fiend of mine runs a fairly modern NH with a big loader. It really is quite awesome in capability both from a driving and handling point of view. He would still prefer a telehandler around the yard if additional cost could be justified. The modern tractor with clutch-less shuttle and brake to stop plus auto/vario is so much different to a manual tractor based on a 1960s design.All this hate towards front loaders! I'd have a front loader tractor over telehandler any day! Yes, most of my work revolves around moving/delivering bales and roadwork so a front loader suits me better, but would still rather have the comfort, road speed, high up seat and power than the manoeuvrability.
He didn't suffer all that depreciation in one shot back in 2003 though, so it's not as high as that.exactly, 27000 in 2003 is actually 38,740 in todays money
What's that got to do with comparing tractor loaders and telehandlers? Absolutely nothing, because I paid 27 for it, not 38.exactly, 27000 in 2003 is actually 38,740 in todays money
A late one with a shuttle transmission and a roll bar might be an option, but in the p!ssing rain in the winter?