Telehandler vs tractor for daily chores ?

2wheels

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Location
aberdeenshire
They already have the machine there and it sounds as if feeding up is not a big job with some big bales. For years we fed hundreds of silage bales with a Ford 4600 2wd and managed fine. He should use the cheapest available machine which is reliable but can also do other jobs. If buying a telehandler even saved 30 minutes a day I would still grudge it as the depreciation would far outweigh that and the 30 minutes would just be spent on TFF instead.
A lot of TFF members either have gone soft or have money burning a hole in their pocket.
'The clutch hurts my knee' 'Fewer steps to climb in a telehandler?' - it's a tractor not boot camp.
No chance I will get youngsters to use a wheelbarrow then?
aye but i had to get a new knee, brother a new hip, his back is totally buggered and we both lose sleep every night with pain. manhandling small bales of hay when young didn't help either. best to make the job as easy as possible.
 

2wheels

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Location
aberdeenshire
I had an earlier iteration of one of these, astonishingly good and tough machine. Reach was the only issue, so we now have a small tele Kramer. :)

I do remember loading a regular grain wagon withe old girl and a toe tip bucket. The driver had timed me secretly, and reckoned it was a lot quicker than side arm teles, which did surprise me. His theory was so much time was being spent on booming in and out???
our nh7740 with trima 470 loader and toe tip bucket had a puncture one day when a load of grain was due to go away so got a neighbour in with newish jcb tele handler to load. despite his bucket being a bit bigger (no toetip) it took him the same time to load. it was probably easier though.
 

Drillman

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Mixed Farmer
What's that got to do with comparing tractor loaders and telehandlers? Absolutely nothing, because I paid 27 for it, not 38.

Ok I'll humour you.

£38740 - £12000 worth today / 11600hrs is STILL only £2.28/hr.
Figures with telehandler is only part of the picture though.

If a tractor goes wrong most folks generally can juggle stuff about or get auld faithful out the shed to keep the job going.

If the telehandler dies the whole farm grinds to a halt in a matter of minutes. (Well it does here) and it’s a mad scramble to get it going again as quick as possible, which is why we now have 2 of them.
 

Spud

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Arable Farmer
Location
YO62
Figures with telehandler is only part of the picture though.

If a tractor goes wrong most folks generally can juggle stuff about or get auld faithful out the shed to keep the job going.

If the telehandler dies the whole farm grinds to a halt in a matter of minutes. (Well it does here) and it’s a mad scramble to get it going again as quick as possible, which is why we now have 2 of them.
We have 3 telehandlers because we can be spread out at times, and for backup. They do about 2000hrs a year between them
 

essexpete

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Location
Essex
They already have the machine there and it sounds as if feeding up is not a big job with some big bales. For years we fed hundreds of silage bales with a Ford 4600 2wd and managed fine. He should use the cheapest available machine which is reliable but can also do other jobs. If buying a telehandler even saved 30 minutes a day I would still grudge it as the depreciation would far outweigh that and the 30 minutes would just be spent on TFF instead.
A lot of TFF members either have gone soft or have money burning a hole in their pocket.
'The clutch hurts my knee' 'Fewer steps to climb in a telehandler?' - it's a tractor not boot camp.
No chance I will get youngsters to use a wheelbarrow then?
Not if there is another option to save health/body. The old boys shifted 2 1/4 cwt bags of corn, lugged wire bales about, went out in all weathers with an old sack over their shoulders and sucked in dust. Most werw fffuked before retirement age and many lasted not long after.
 

Boysground

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Wiltshire
I went from one handler to 2. I was fed up of asking the guys what they were doing and the reply being "waiting for the Manitou". Thought I would go from 1 machine doing 1500 hours to 2 doing 750 each. That bit didnt work and 1 does 1500 and the other 1000. Tend to change 1 every other year or so. The oldest machine is then going towards 6000 hours.

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Drillman

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Mixed Farmer
I went from one handler to 2. I was fed up of asking the guys what they were doing and the reply being "waiting for the Manitou". Thought I would go from 1 machine doing 1500 hours to 2 doing 750 each. That bit didnt work and 1 does 1500 and the other 1000. Tend to change 1 every other year or so. The oldest machine is then going towards 6000 hours.

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For me it’s the opposite as I largely a one man band

2 telehandler s is maybe a luxury but with a combined age of 42 years and 20,000hrs between them how much justification is needed?

between them they will do less hrs than one on its own as less running about for a start

manitou used to haul topside of 1000 round bales home for a start now the tractors do that much easier and faster and the loaders stay in the yard and field and do what there best at
 

HDAV

Member
We have an old 4wd 590.its jobs to put few bales of straw an silage in the shed for 7 months a year uses very little fuel........but that's about it!!
Always breaking down,won't start when its cold.clutch is knackered,4wd has just gone,front Axel is hanging on by the skin of its teeth and has now developed a water problem.
I hate it that much I won't drive it.I take the forklift the 6 miles along the road as its far quicker.
Keep looking for something to replace it but all between £15-£20k an most aren't much younger than me.
Remember me when you find a replacement 😉

but spares particularly front axles are becoming hard to come by. Clutch is cheap but I guess a bit of a pig to do? Had to do one of ours not due to the clutch but a bearing had gone and while it was apart might as well put a new one in there….
tractor man had it apart for a few days not long after front axle failed then alternator so just had starter & alternator reconditioned ready for it to all be put back together hopefully in the new year ………. With a secondhand front diff and finger crossed it works 🤞

Turning circle isn’t great and wouldn’t want to drive one with a loader in a tight yard for very long bad enough in a car park…….
 
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Spud

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Arable Farmer
Location
YO62
For me it’s the opposite as I largely a one man band

2 telehandler s is maybe a luxury but with a combined age of 42 years and 20,000hrs between them how much justification is needed?

between them they will do less hrs than one on its own as less running about for a start

manitou used to haul topside of 1000 round bales home for a start now the tractors do that much easier and faster and the loaders stay in the yard and field and do what there best at
The only thing I've found a tractor and loader better for is carting straw. Load in the field and drag trailers about with the tractor, tip in the yard with telehandler.
Maxxum & Q980 with 33' cart.
Now we tend to blitz the straw, two tractors & 33' carts, telehandler at each end, four people. Hundred acres cleared in about 4hrs
 

Drillman

Member
Mixed Farmer
The only thing I've found a tractor and loader better for is carting straw. Load in the field and drag trailers about with the tractor, tip in the yard with telehandler.
Maxxum & Q980 with 33' cart.
Now we tend to blitz the straw, two tractors & 33' carts, telehandler at each end, four people. Hundred acres cleared in about 4hrs
Yes same here but with 3 trailers 2 loaders and 3 drivers

trailer been filled another been emptied and the third on the move

or if f there’s only wifey and me I fill she unloads and we cab hop as needed
 

dave mountain

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Livestock Farmer
Industrial forklifts get stuck on a banana skin and have no reach. Telehandler boom out reach over into a pen. Easy, quick, safe & effective.
No denying that. But, this thread is about running costs not convenience. Running costs are typically higher for a telehandler than anything else similar.
 

mobileweld

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Arable Farmer

I always wanted to make a compact loader from a hi-tip mini dumper. Doesn’t look like it would take much a bit of clever engineering with the bucket pivot.

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