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beardface · Jan 6, 2022

Farmers could be paid for post-Brexit 'rewilding' land changes

"Radical plans" could see large areas of land in England turned into nature reserves.

www.bbc.co.uk

Not a single quote from.anyone actually linked to ag industry. You know the people that actually have to deal with the consequences of all this.

Gordy1 · Jan 6, 2022

If you want to see a cow you will have to go to a zoo!!!!.

kfpben · Jan 6, 2022

I appreciate I’m not with the zeitgeist here but am I alone in struggling to get very excited about wildlife?

It’s either there or it’s not, it’s presence has barely any discernible benefits to my life, often it plain gets in the way, losing me money as it does. I mean it’s nice to see the odd couple of boxing hares but it wouldn’t keep me awake at night if they weren’t there.
Am I a monster!?

Hfd Cattle · Jan 6, 2022

kfpben said:
I appreciate I’m not with the zeitgeist here but am I alone in struggling to get very excited about wildlife?

It’s either there or it’s not, it’s presence has barely any discernible benefits to my life, often it plain gets in the way, losing me money as it does. I mean it’s nice to see the odd couple of boxing hares but it wouldn’t keep me awake at night if they weren’t there.
Am I a monster!?

I know where you are coming from ..... where I have the problem is the huge amount of effort and money that appears to be available for nature reserves etc etc . There is plenty of nature about which have seemed to manage to keep going for hundreds of yrs and livecquite comfortably with the farming industry . We have stopped pushing mikes and miles of hedgerows out and have replanted miles and mikes . There are thousands of trees gone in so in my view there is plenty of space for wildlife with out now going overboard to make more reserves .

Jackov Altraids · Jan 6, 2022

beardface said:
Farmers could be paid for post-Brexit 'rewilding' land changes

"Radical plans" could see large areas of land in England turned into nature reserves.

www.bbc.co.uk

Not a single quote from.anyone actually linked to ag industry. You know the people that actually have to deal with the consequences of all this.

I guess they would suggest George Useless was......

Jackov Altraids · Jan 6, 2022

kfpben said:
I appreciate I’m not with the zeitgeist here but am I alone in struggling to get very excited about wildlife?

It’s either there or it’s not, it’s presence has barely any discernible benefits to my life, often it plain gets in the way, losing me money as it does. I mean it’s nice to see the odd couple of boxing hares but it wouldn’t keep me awake at night if they weren’t there.
Am I a monster!?

Listening to how it has been reported on the radio, I was of the opposite view.
I am excited about improving sustainability and wildlife but they suggest I'm
not because I am unlikely to take part in the ill-conceived hogwash schemes they have invented.

And why did the BBC feel the need to keep saying its 'tax payers money'.
What government spending isn't?

kfpben · Jan 6, 2022

Jackov Altraids said:
Listening to how it has been reported on the radio, I was of the opposite view.
I am excited about improving sustainability and wildlife but they suggest I'm
not because I am unlikely to take part in the ill-conceived hogwash schemes they have invented.

And why did the BBC feel the need to keep saying its 'tax payers money'.
What government spending isn't?

I noted the schemes start at 500ha minimum farm size, so not exactly very useful for the majority!

I write my comments farming a farm with a fair bit of wildlife that has been in an HLS scheme for just over a decade. I can’t say it gets me out of bed in the morning though.

slackjawedyokel · Jan 6, 2022

I guess it will be more cash heading towards the likes of NT, wildlife trusts etc, who will then be lobbying hard for further ‘taxpayer money’ to manage those ‘wild’ areas.

Boysground · Jan 6, 2022

I was very excited to finally see an otter on the farm a couple of days ago. With a bit of luck he will breed and eat all the trout. Then the effing river keeper will be out of a job. So I’m very pro a little more wildlife.

On the other hand I can’t see a bigger waste of money than the local wildlife trust.

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farenheit · Jan 6, 2022

It’s a business just tell me how much you are offering per hectare and I’ll think about it!

Bobthebuilder · Jan 6, 2022

We have a bit here under English natures control, it’s a very rare peat bog which runs parallel to the east coast train line, @200ac which 110 is grass/rushes/water and a patch of trees and rare plants, the amount of money they spend on it is unreal, sinking a bore hole to control water level ( turns out the water coming out was the wrong PH after being filtered through all the peat) they cut quite a bit of trees/bushes on t a few years ago which opened it up to the north winds, never heard a cookoo since

they have a couple of exmoor ponies rummaging around in it ( did have 4 goats for a while) they want us to keep the rushes topped but won’t let us do it at certain times because of nesting birds but that’s normally the only time it’s dry enough, must be 40/50ac of the grassy bit under water atm, great for the wildfowl but not much else

britishblue · Jan 6, 2022

Completely agree with you kpfben. I like to see it on my daily work but just don't get the mass hysteria over it. It's just there and always has been!

Stw88 · Jan 6, 2022

Trouble is with these “nature reserves” that they want, the vermin isn’t controlled. Therefore all the little songbirds and waders that they want don’t stand a chance. If farmers/ gamekeepers were allowed to control the predators nature reserves probably wouldn’t be needed.
Possibly stopping every tom, dick and Harry wandering around with there dogs running loose during the breeeding season would do no harm either.

J 1177 · Jan 6, 2022

Its all an utter utter joke. Around my way weve an abundance of wildlife, well we did until a big part of it including miles and miles of historic hedges, water courses etc was levelled to put up a f**king big amazon wherehouse, hundreds of houses, a costa. Wagons going in day and night, masses of traffic. But its farmers fault for the lack of diversity. The utter joke

Jrp221 · Jan 6, 2022

kfpben said:
I noted the schemes start at 500ha minimum farm size, so not exactly very useful for the majority!

I write my comments farming a farm with a fair bit of wildlife that has been in an HLS scheme for just over a decade. I can’t say it gets me out of bed in the morning though.

I think the plan is for farms to work/link together to make up the ha's, how this will work in reality might prove to be a massive ball ache especially in divvying out money.

ajcc · Jan 6, 2022

Fear not Ed Sheeran and Brian May are chief unofficial policy advisers.

muleman · Jan 6, 2022

kfpben said:
I appreciate I’m not with the zeitgeist here but am I alone in struggling to get very excited about wildlife?

It’s either there or it’s not, it’s presence has barely any discernible benefits to my life, often it plain gets in the way, losing me money as it does. I mean it’s nice to see the odd couple of boxing hares but it wouldn’t keep me awake at night if they weren’t there.
Am I a monster!?

Id rather have a full stomach than see a couple of boxing hares....people maybe need to be hungered to make them appreciate their food again

Norfolk Hill Farmer · Jan 6, 2022

Even if your not interested in nature, the reality of the matter is that it is located mostly ,in our farming environment . If has taken millions of years to evolve and is beyond special. We live in times of plenty where half the population our obese and a huge proportion of food is thrown away. Not saying the answer is the above but as a nation we have a duty to protect it.

Sid · Jan 6, 2022

muleman said:
Id rather have a full stomach than see a couple of boxing hares....people maybe need to be hungered to make them appreciate their food again

Why can't you have both in harmony?

Treg · Jan 6, 2022

J 1177 said:
Its all an utter utter joke. Around my way weve an abundance of wildlife, well we did until a big part of it including miles and miles of historic hedges, water courses etc was levelled to put up a f**king big amazon wherehouse, hundreds of houses, a costa. Wagons going in day and night, masses of traffic. But its farmers fault for the lack of diversity. The utter joke

Yeap, say you want 3000 house and biodiversity & wildlife go out the window, it's can we have caught for road improvements, you couldn't make it up

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