Foresight Obesity System Map

Ffermer Bach

Member
Livestock Farmer
Fat causes inflammation?

Do you have a link to a technical explanation of that please?
I have been trying to find a paper on the above, but just a quick look seems to me that fructose causes fatty liver disease, which leads to metabolic syndrome, and High Fructose Corn Syrup, found this little gem of a note too during a cursory look about What’s even worse, Dr. Hyman notes, is high doses of fructose “punch little holes in your intestinal lining, causing what we call a leaky gut.” He explains that this allows foreign food proteins and bacterial proteins to enter into your bloodstream, which triggers inflammation, makes you gain weight and causes type 2 diabetes.
 

SteveHants

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Livestock Farmer
I have been trying to find a paper on the above, but just a quick look seems to me that fructose causes fatty liver disease, which leads to metabolic syndrome, and High Fructose Corn Syrup, found this little gem of a note too during a cursory look about What’s even worse, Dr. Hyman notes, is high doses of fructose “punch little holes in your intestinal lining, causing what we call a leaky gut.” He explains that this allows foreign food proteins and bacterial proteins to enter into your bloodstream, which triggers inflammation, makes you gain weight and causes type 2 diabetes.
Does this apply to honey too? As I recall, honey is very high in fructose.
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
Some interesting stuff in The National Food Strategy
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DaveGrohl

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Cumbria
The main point was to cut down on Saturated Fat ,in particular, processed foods containing high levels of saturated fats, trans-fats, sugars and salt , throw away the frying pan,
I think you all know what you should be eating,
I cook and shop for myself in the week , I only have about 3
supermarket aisles I go down
Fruit Veg and Salad , Meat Fish Eggs,
Foods that have come direct from a farm ,
I never go down any aisle that contains things like Crisps Chocolate , Fizzy Drinks Biscuits Ready made meals ,
I'm no expert , I get my advice from Doctors and their professional staff , not from Google and Internet Forums

Yes I wished I had spoken to the doctor years ago who told me to go on a low fat heathy diet, it's all on the NHS website now , the internet is a wonderful thing if you look in the right place
I’m confused. What you’ve described above looks like a lower carb diet. :scratchhead:
 
Location
Cheshire

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
With this as the NFS we are in for very sick future.
HFSS designations have no logic, barring a convenient nudge towards veganism.
Reducing the calorie content of energy dense foods, (means replacing fats and proteins with carbohydrate) could lead to more obesity and diabetes.


The full report is here to download - check out the Evidence section and subsection Health .............. frankly it's terrifying ............. Covid has nothing on the storm thats coming

 
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Derrick Hughes

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Location
Ceredigion
I’m confused. What you’ve described above looks like a lower carb diet. :scratchhead:

I’m confused. What you’ve described above looks like a lower carb diet. :scratchhead:
That's my cycling diet to lose weight , I was not getting up to the speeds I wanted so decided to get my weight down , I was just under 14 stone I am now 11 . 7 stone and speeds gone up approx 3 mph and hills are a lot easier, the NHS reabilatation classes go through all the diet and what not to eat , the main point was to avoid foods High in Saturated Fats, but they spend a lot of time explaining what's heathy to eat and not, I'm afraid Lard is not one of them
 

Ffermer Bach

Member
Livestock Farmer
Does this apply to honey too? As I recall, honey is very high in fructose.
not sure, certainly fructose in fruit is apparently OK. as it is contained with all the fibre of the fruit, however, I believe fruit is being grown to be sweeter now to suit our tastes. I have read that smoothies or juices are not good, as all the fibre has been smashed about, and with juice it is easy to have 4 or 5 oranges of fructose, where as eating a whole orange, we would only eat 1 at a sitting.
 
Location
Cheshire
not sure, certainly fructose in fruit is apparently OK. as it is contained with all the fibre of the fruit, however, I believe fruit is being grown to be sweeter now to suit our tastes. I have read that smoothies or juices are not good, as all the fibre has been smashed about, and with juice it is easy to have 4 or 5 oranges of fructose, where as eating a whole orange, we would only eat 1 at a sitting.
Honey is just as bad, fruits vary, the tomato is the boundary between good and bad for too much sugar, so bananas, apples and oranges are not ideal.
 

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