Prospective pay rise

GlennW · Jan 18, 2022

Always been paid based on a 39 hr week plus o/t at time and a half.
This time I have been offered a choice of a rise carrying on with the same set up , or a higher basic figure plus 1.4 o/t.
Based on my average annual o/t hours, there’s only £140 difference in my gross earnings.
It’s set me wondering why I’ve been offered a choice, or if i’m just overly suspicious

335d · Jan 18, 2022

Is your employer paying a percentage of your basic figure into a pension?
something to think about as well.

GlennW · Jan 18, 2022

335d said:
Is your employer paying a percentage of your basic figure into a pension?
something to think about as well.

Have been on the workplace pension since auto enrolment started a few years ago, but as far as I remember it is taken from the total of basic, o/t, and bonuses etc

ARW · Jan 18, 2022

Will you not save a bit of tax on the lesser overtime rate?

cows sh#t me to tears · Jan 18, 2022

Or you could just be grateful you were offered anything....

335d · Jan 18, 2022

ARW said:
Will you not save a bit of tax on the lesser overtime rate?

How come?
If the op is on PAYE, if You’re paying less tax, you‘re take home is less.

for easy counting if in the first set up the basic is £10 an hour, then o/t is £15.
in the second instance, a basic rate of £10.71 gives an o/t of £15 @1.4.

If you’re think about a loan or mortgage etc, it’ll be based on your basic wage, so maybe advantageous

GlennW · Jan 18, 2022

cows sh#t me to tears said:
Or you could just be grateful you were offered anything....

Don’t get me wrong, i’m not knocking it, just wondering why after years of using the same system, i’m suddenly being offered a choice.
And wanting to pick the right one

bobk · Jan 18, 2022

GlennW said:
Don’t get me wrong, i’m not knocking it, just wondering why after years of using the same system, i’m suddenly being offered a choice.
And wanting to pick the right one

Lucky you get paid , I've been doing it for 40 years and still waiting .

kiwi pom · Jan 18, 2022

cows sh#t me to tears said:
Or you could just be grateful you were offered anything....

Or if they decided not to take it they could go somewhere else.

GlennW said:
Always been paid based on a 39 hr week plus o/t at time and a half.
This time I have been offered a choice of a rise carrying on with the same set up , or a higher basic figure plus 1.4 o/t.
Based on my average annual o/t hours, there’s only £140 difference in my gross earnings.
It’s set me wondering why I’ve been offered a choice, or if i’m just overly suspicious

Sounds like they're trying to get clever without offering any real increase.
Only you can decide if its worth it and whether you can do better elsewhere.
Have you tried telling them you prefer the old way and want the raise to be based on that?

kiwi pom · Jan 18, 2022

bobk said:
Lucky you get paid , I've been doing it for 40 years and still waiting .

You're very lucky to have had someone else to pay for your food, accommodation, bills, insurances, transport etc for the last 40 years,
Well done

GlennW · Jan 18, 2022

kiwi pom said:
Or if they decided not to take it they could go somewhere else.

Sounds like they're trying to get clever without offering any real increase.
Only you can decide if its worth it and whether you can do better elsewhere.
Have you tried telling them you prefer the old way and want the raise to be based on that?

Not looking to go elsewhere, am quite happy with the status quo, and either option of pay rise will be a nice little increase.
Just trying to weigh up the pro’s and cons of each, or if there’s an ulterior motive behind the new option that i’m not seeing

kiwi pom · Jan 18, 2022

GlennW said:
Not looking to go elsewhere, am quite happy with the status quo, and either option of pay rise will be a nice little increase.
Just trying to weigh up the pro’s and cons of each, or if there’s an ulterior motive behind the new option that i’m not seeing

Did you ask why they want to change?
I think I read your post wrong too. What time frame is the extra 140 quid over? a week, fortnight, month?

An Gof · Jan 18, 2022

Go for the higher basic rate if the difference is as small as you suggest. If anything goes wrong any recompense will be based on your basic pay.

GlennW · Jan 18, 2022

kiwi pom said:
Did you ask why they want to change?
I think I read your post wrong too. What time frame is the extra 140 quid over? a week, fortnight, month?

Been sprung on me a bit, the subject was brought up yesterday, the actual figures this afternoon, and decision by tomorrow morning cos its timesheet day

£140 over the year, using my average annual o/t hours

ARW · Jan 18, 2022

335d said:
How come?
If the op is on PAYE, if You’re paying less tax, you‘re take home is less.
I thought overtime had a different tax rate? I think I’m wrong now
As said why change this? Where’s the benefit?
for easy counting if in the first set up the basic is £10 an hour, then o/t is £15.
in the second instance, a basic rate of £10.71 gives an o/t of £15 @1.4.

If you’re think about a loan or mortgage etc, it’ll be based on your basic wage, so maybe advantageous

grainboy · Jan 18, 2022

£140 yr = £2.91 week, or 7p hr
Unless I’m reading this wrong, not much of a pay increase,

kiwi pom · Jan 18, 2022

GlennW said:
Been sprung on me a bit, the subject was brought up yesterday, the actual figures this afternoon, and decision by tomorrow morning cos its timesheet day
£140 over the year, using my average annual o/t hours

Your pay rise is 140 quid a year?
That's worse than not getting one in my opinion.
Talks should continue, don't let them push you into a deadline.

GlennW · Jan 18, 2022

grainboy said:
£140 yr = £2.91 week, or 7p hr
Unless I’m reading this wrong, not much of a pay increase,

kiwi pom said:
Your pay rise is 140 quid a year?
That's worse than not getting one in my opinion.
Talks should continue, don't let them push you into a deadline.

No, hang on,maybe i’m not explaining it well.
I have been offered two options of payrise,
An increase in basic and overtime at 1.5 or
A bigger increase in basic but overtime at 1.4.
The difference between those 2 options is approx £140/ yr
Which is the better option and why give a choice ?

An Gof · Jan 18, 2022

grainboy said:
£140 yr = £2.91 week, or 7p hr
Unless I’m reading this wrong, not much of a pay increase,

Read his post, that’s not what he said. The £140 is the difference between the new system and previous system calculated on the hours o/t he worked last year

Devil's advocate · Jan 18, 2022

bobk said:
Lucky you get paid , I've been doing it for 40 years and still waiting .

Thought you were a multi millionaire with acres of building land.

Hardly keeps you in touch with the working man.

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