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Sid

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Livestock Farmer
Location
South Molton
Aslong as he pays then its all good..I've never been a fan of them asking how many lots do you want...I've seen it so many times at farm sales the first lot isn't in the best of nick say farm gates,sheep or whatever yet the ones further on are better ones so a farmer holds back from the first lot hoping he'll get to bid on the ones he wants yet the buyers just bought it all🤦🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️
I got a lot of cheap yard gates like that once. Odds and sods in first lot which I bought, then offered me the other 10 lots of bigger gates, I took the lot. Could have sold them twice over in the next 10 minutes
 

Estate fencing.

Member
Livestock Farmer
Aslong as he pays then its all good..I've never been a fan of them asking how many lots do you want...I've seen it so many times at farm sales the first lot isn't in the best of nick say farm gates,sheep or whatever yet the ones further on are better ones so a farmer holds back from the first lot hoping he'll get to bid on the ones he wants yet the buyers just bought it all🤦🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️
Makes sales more fun when they give the option, you have to weigh up wether the other bidder is going to take them all or just one lot. Are you prepared to pay more for the first lot or risk not getting any.
 

Hfd Cattle

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Hereford
Utter pee take wanting a deposit for a fodder sale!

Buyers cannot remove the fodder anyway untill payment has cleared and vendors informed.

They may be getting okay prices but if online people who are watching the sale and see a lot that is cheaper and local will be prevented from bidding unless they have paid a deposit.

I would love to know the logic for a deposit for a fodder sale and indeed any type of auction!
It's quite complicated the way Brightwells do it . You give them your card details and they put a 'secure claim ' on £500. That means they don't actually take it unless you buy but the if you buy more than £500 worth then the £500 is then taken and you have about 48 hrs to pay the balance . If you don't then pay the balance you lose your £500 and the Fodder ! .. .... it's £5000 for a machinery sale ......so if you fancy a bit of machinery at their 'Madley' machinery auction and it's only going to make a £100 or so you still have to secure them with 5K !!!

H J Pugh (Ledbury) do a far better system where you register to bid at a cost of £3 . Then when the auction is running you are free to bid on any lots but as soon as you are successful then the amount is automatically deducted for each lot .

The deposit system Brightwells use was introduced to sift out the scam bidders I think when it went to online only .
 
It's quite complicated the way Brightwells do it . You give them your card details and they put a 'secure claim ' on £500. That means they don't actually take it unless you buy but the if you buy more than £500 worth then the £500 is then taken and you have about 48 hrs to pay the balance . If you don't then pay the balance you lose your £500 and the Fodder ! .. .... it's £5000 for a machinery sale ......so if you fancy a bit of machinery at their 'Madley' machinery auction and it's only going to make a £100 or so you still have to secure them with 5K !!!

H J Pugh (Ledbury) do a far better system where you register to bid at a cost of £3 . Then when the auction is running you are free to bid on any lots but as soon as you are successful then the amount is automatically deducted for each lot .

The deposit system Brightwells use was introduced to sift out the scam bidders I think when it went to online only .
I wonder if part of this deposit idea is to stop folks bidding at it then backing out and buying it privately?
There’s a lot of fodder traded at the local sales to get a price and a lot appears and put into the auction which is already sold
 

som farmer

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
I got a lot of cheap yard gates like that once. Odds and sods in first lot which I bought, then offered me the other 10 lots of bigger gates, I took the lot. Could have sold them twice over in the next 10 minutes
the other way around, we bought 15 heavy duty 15ft yard gates, for £70 each, and 15 500gl water troughs for £68 each, at an on line sale, because nobody would bid on the lots, to big in numbers, his loss, our great gain !
 

DRC

Member
Using auctioneers is quite outdated. Plenty of FB page/ groups which are free to use and is where I’ve sold all my hay/ haylage this year. Take some good pictures when your making it, before it’s wrapped and be prepared to open a bale if possible .
 

Hfd Cattle

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Hereford
Using auctioneers is quite outdated. Plenty of FB page/ groups which are free to use and is where I’ve sold all my hay/ haylage this year. Take some good pictures when your making it, before it’s wrapped and be prepared to open a bale if possible .
Farmers ......creatures of habit .
I've been putting Fodder in Auctions for yrs and yrs . .....
Sell far more privately admittingly but if farmers didn't use Auctions then they would be gone and I'm not sure it's a good thing .

We don't do faceache but a friend does and he gets messed around so much but I do realise it's not all bad .
 
I got a lot of cheap yard gates like that once. Odds and sods in first lot which I bought, then offered me the other 10 lots of bigger gates, I took the lot. Could have sold them twice over in the next 10 minutes
Thinking about it so did I once🤣 but mine were damaged gates one or two bars bent about four lots of 5 gates from 10 to 16ft something like £2 a gate..We repaired most of the gates by using one to repair 3 or four others and got back in scrap value for the offcuts so can't complain the gates are a lot thicker steel and galv to what iae etc make today too🤷🏻‍♂️
 

Derrick Hughes

Member
Location
Ceredigion
I've been going to what is recognised as the biggest fodder auctions in the country for most of my life and never come across any of the garbage above , I left Newbury auction yesterday without even an invoice in my hand , I will come by email for payment shortly ,
 
I've been going to what is recognised as the biggest fodder auctions in the country for most of my life and never come across any of the garbage above , I left Newbury auction yesterday without even an invoice in my hand , I will come by email for payment shortly ,
Like you say you've been going most of your life to and buying at these sales so you're well known to them so there's trust...It's the newbie timewasters they are doing this for to cut out their nonsense of winning bids then pulling out and keep it for genuine people which we'd all agree life's too short to be messed about..As I always say for people like that pulling out after the hammer has fallen pity their father didn't pull out🙄
 

Derrick Hughes

Member
Location
Ceredigion
Like you say you've been going most of your life to and buying at these sales so you're well known to them so there's trust...It's the newbie timewasters they are doing this for to cut out their nonsense of winning bids then pulling out and keep it for genuine people which we'd all agree life's too short to be messed about..As I always say for people like that pulling out after the hammer has fallen pity their father didn't pull out🙄
The Auctioneer s would know most by name , they miss Footman that's for sure , was always a good strong buyer at those Auction s
 

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