what dose for this time of year?

spark_28

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Western isles
well for two weeks time. they got flukiver in November. Trodaxed them this time last year but cant get it.

Flukiver them again? has anyone used Endofluke? seen that online
 

ladycrofter

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Highland
Oh I see. We do Sep/Nov then maybe Feb. Not using albendazole for that now, as you say, dont need a wormer unless we're needing short withdrawal for selling.
 

Dachie

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east Ayrshire
well for two weeks time. they got flukiver in November. Trodaxed them this time last year but cant get it.

Flukiver them again? has anyone used Endofluke? seen that online
My first question would be do they need anything. I normally flukiver everything this time of year as when I bought my flock 400 ewe 8 year ago I was told they were triclabenadzol resistant. For the past eight year I said I was going to test them to see if they were so last week got 10 ewes in individually ding sampled them (£15 a head) bought the samllest quantity of fasinex I could (£67) and waited for dung sample results to find out what had fluke to retest to check fasinex had killed all fluke. But none had any fluke in them so pool sampled my hill ewes and they came back the same no fluke present and very little to no worm count either. So less dosing required and I will now be testing before dosing now save money and not creating any more resistance problems.
But still don't know if I can use triclabenadzol. Lol
 
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ladycrofter

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Highland
Read in a NADIS or other paper that dung testing is ineffective for fluke as some types (maybe chronic sub acute??) don't shed enough eggs to detect. Sorry can't remember the exact details.
In your case I would purge them, 2 diff doses 6-8 weeks apart, then watch their condition. Poor wool etc, paper said bottle jaw is actually uncommon.
 

AftonShepherd

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Livestock Farmer
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East Ayrshire
My first question would be do they need anything. I normally flukiver everything this time of year as when I bought my flock 400 ewe 8 year ago I was told they were triclabenadzol resistant. For the past eight year I said I was going to test them to see if they were so last week got 10 ewes in individually ding sampled them (£15 a head) bought the samllest quantity of fasinex I could (£67) and waited for dung sample results to find out what had fluke to retest to check fasinex had killed all fluke. But none had any fluke in them so pool sampled my hill ewes and they came back the same no fluke present and very little to no worm count either. So less dosing required and I will now be testing before dosing now save money and not creating any more resistance problems.
But still don't know if I can use triclabenadzol. Lol
I'd have sold you ten doses for less than £67 if you'd asked 🤣
 

Dachie

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Livestock Farmer
Location
east Ayrshire
Read in a NADIS or other paper that dung testing is ineffective for fluke as some types (maybe chronic sub acute??) don't shed enough eggs to detect. Sorry can't remember the exact details.
In your case I would purge them, 2 diff doses 6-8 weeks apart, then watch their condition. Poor wool etc, paper said bottle jaw is actually uncommon.
That is correct that the feacel egg count can't miss it but using the coproantigen ELISA test is alot more accurate than egg count.
 

neilo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
Read in a NADIS or other paper that dung testing is ineffective for fluke as some types (maybe chronic sub acute??) don't shed enough eggs to detect. Sorry can't remember the exact details.
In your case I would purge them, 2 diff doses 6-8 weeks apart, then watch their condition. Poor wool etc, paper said bottle jaw is actually uncommon.

FEC for fluke is unreliable. However, there is a coproantigen test where you send a pooled poo sample off and they look for fluke antibodies. You can do it yourself (no vet fee!), sending the sample to Biobest, and it only costs £15 iirc.👍

Vet is keener on using a newer test now, which looks for antibodies in the blood. It’s supposed to be even more accurate, but involves paying a vet for the blood sampling and the testing…
 

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