Excellent article about rewilding

egbert

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Livestock Farmer
I get to the “I’m alright Jack” stage with the whole thing if I’m honest.
We haven’t borrowed a lot of money.
We haven’t spent a lot on shiny kit or toys.
We haven’t bought land at top prices.
We don’t pay stupid rents.
We don’t take on more than we can sensibly manage.
We don’t employ expensive people.
We saw reduction in subs coming.
We do off farm non ag work.
We don’t run fancy motors.
We don’t go on foreign holidays.
We live modestly.
We’ll be alright.

As you say, there are so many different factions in the farming industry that trying to reach any kind of consensus is impossible.
So I give up arguing and we will do as we see fit and let the rest do as they like.
I’ve given up trying to change the world. It’s a waste of time and effort. Nobody listens. Let them learn the hard way.
ah...the mantra of the survivor
 
Do you believe it's compulsory then?


Do we have optional Green taxes ? Green regulation ? NVZs ... Red Tractor .. perhaps the Beavers will be "Optional". Rewilding "Optional" on land ? Flooding "Optional" ?

ELMS payments will be "Optional" from the governments side.

HMG is full of authoritarian ill-Liberals and Greens. They won't be able to help themselves.
 
Let me ask the same question in a different way:

Do you expect to be forced to sign up to elms?

Yes or no will do.


I do expect to be forced off BPS, forced into using less chemicals, forced into paying more taxes, forced into doing what I don't to do.

Be pedantic about any government government scheme - the net result has been in one direction for decades.

Do as I say - whilst HMG wastes money by the £Billions, usually on criminals.
 

Overby

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
South West
The 'Illuminati' or whatever you want to call the Rockerfellers etc who REALLY control what's going on supposedly have a plan to divide industry up into 'local' hubs around the world. Europe is meant to be financial and techy from what I recall reading, farming is to be pushed towards America and Industry into the Far East.
Mumbo jumbo or is there something to it?
 

primmiemoo

Member
Location
Devon
The 'Illuminati' or whatever you want to call the Rockerfellers etc who REALLY control what's going on supposedly have a plan to divide industry up into 'local' hubs around the world. Europe is meant to be financial and techy from what I recall reading, farming is to be pushed towards America and Industry into the Far East.
Mumbo jumbo or is there something to it?
It's conspiracy theory central 😁 , but no doubt extremely plausible to wannabe empire builders who still operate on farming the carpet wiv toys level.
 
I don't see how articles like this help. They just feed the 'whingeing farmers' narrative. Everyone bellyaches that ELMS is being driven by the likes of the RSPB, Wildlife Trusts etc. Why is that ? Could it be that they know, specifically, what they want out of ELMS, and employ the best that money can hire to get that message across ? What do we do, beyond cheer when someone writes an article slagging it off ? Where are the articles from our national bodies saying, specifically, what ELMS needs to look like ? Look at the NFU submission to the Public Accounts Committee, all it does is moan and call for a 12 month delay. The NFU have known this has been coming for years. Why don't they have their version written ?
What do you think should happen if you had carte blanche?
 

Bald Rick

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Anglesey
I see that Stark, CEO of the climate change committee, in their 600 page progress report to government has stated that net zero (legally binding on U.K. for 2050 thanks to T May) will not be achieved unless “large swathes of the country are rewilded” saying U.K. agriculture is “glacial” in reducing emissions by at least 34%.

Good luck with that one Pillock whilst food costs are rising and perhaps there is finally some recognition of food security
 

SFI - What % were you taking out of production?

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Red Tractor drops launch of green farming scheme amid anger from farmers

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As reported in Independent


quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

read the TFF thread here: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/gfc-was-to-go-ahead-now-not-going-ahead.405234/
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