Getting paid for straw ?

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super4

Member
Location
Dorset
my straw dealer was telling me how hard it is to get the payment from the farmer, most he has to bank roll until bps payment time. Not sure what will happen with the end of bps.
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
Don’t tar everyone with the same brush, we buy a lot of straw and pay the moment the invoice lands on the desk! Theirs good and bad ones in all trades! Now getting farmers to pay us for the straw, if only……!


pretty much everyone I’ve ever sold straw to can be tarred with this same brush

it won’t happen again thats for sure, should have learnt my lesson by now really
 

rob h

Member
Location
east yorkshire
Straw buyers have always been the worst payers hear. Sold some through merchants they claim the livestock farmers are late paying them.sold some direct to farmers they claim cash flow problems. Have some in a field corner at the moment that was supposed to be shifted at harvest .
 
Location
East Mids
What is it about straw buyers that thinks they don'y need to pay or can run their business on my cashflow ? happens over and over, diferent buyers same sob stories, without doubt the worst payers in British farming

next time a livestock farmer wonders why so much straw is chopped this is the reason

Any tips (short of physical violence) on how to get money out of a straw buyer ?
We buy straw in the swath from the same farm every year and usually have to beg them to send an invoice (we did this before Christmas) and then pay it straight away.
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
They can't give straw away at auctions ATM
Only way straw works is long term loyalty on both sides , why have you been trading with so many ,all you need is one good one

what its worth today is not my problem

a price was agreed and the money is owed

its this kind of attitude that abounds in the straw world but nowhere else. Why should I be loyal when buyers constantly take the pee over payment
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
Usually find the farmers wanting top money for straw end up with the cowboys coming in and not getting paid, would be better building good relationships at a sensible price, as we do

price was well below the higher prices and auctions n my area and its to someone we have worked with and sold to for a number of years now but payment is always late and unneeded hassle, hes clearly running his business on my cashflow which is not on

its frankly just not worth selling the stuff unless payment is up front, (which I will insist on it i ever sell again) this isn't my first poor experience, buyers all seem to have a similar approach of thinking they don't need to pay or its my problem they bought for more than they can now sell for etc

next time a merchant or livestock farmer wonders why arable farmers are not keen to sell straw remember this thread
 

Derrick Hughes

Member
Location
Ceredigion
what its worth today is not my problem

a price was agreed and the money is owed

its this kind of attitude that abounds in the straw world but nowhere else. Why should I be loyal when buyers constantly take the pee over payment
Because you said you would stick it in the auction like you were going to cash in
If you selling in the swath then get him to pay up front until trust is there
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
Because you said you would stick it in the auction like you were going to cash in
If you selling in the swath then get him to pay up front until trust is there

think trust has gone, highest bidder at pre harvest auction and cash up front in the future or chopper and a lower fert bill / better yields and more ISO C to sell

straw is not a waste product for a arable farmer
 

Two Tone

Member
Mixed Farmer
I’m sure it isn’t always the merchant’s fault.
When I lived in Suffolk, a friend of mine asked if I’d help deliver some hay and straw to a few yards in Newmarket. It was his hay and I drove the lorry.
We dropped off to 3 yards, all of which paid by cheque. While we were there, we noticed a tall, thinnish chap wearing a brown suit and a trilby that seemed to follow us from one yard to the next. We decided to stop in town for a coffee. In walks the same guy and came and sat down beside us.
“Gentlemen” he said. “ I see you have been dropping some hay and straw off at 3 yards this morning.”
He then took out a ledger from his briefcase and said “I want to show you how much each of those 3 yards owe me for straw and hay!”
They were some very, very large amounts for some very, very well known trainers and at least 2 of the cheques had been returned and stapled to the ledger with a note from the Bank saying ‘Refer to drawer’!

The same happened to us. With excuses of ‘if you bring another load, we’ll pay for both at the same time’.
Or that the horse owners were behind paying their fees.

I’m not sure if that coffee was either a very expensive cup of worth every penny. But, guess who didn’t ever send any more hay or straw to Newmarket, even if it was CBU (Cash before unloading)?

I hope the Trilby hat guy got paid eventually.
 

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