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B'o'B

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Arable Farmer
Location
Rutland
What you say is absolutely true. All over Europe we must be taking actions to reduce energy usage any way we can, right now.

Everyone.

I've knocked the heating back a lot, family haven't complained yet so I'll drop it again. Things that I was in the habit of leaving on stand-by are now switch fully off. I'll be walking more places where I can and was thinking today I'll get my bike out to see what it needs.

We are at war, an economic war. And humanity needs us to make the economic war work and the faster the better
 
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tullah

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Location
Linconshire
Everyone.

I've knocked the heating back a lot, family haven't complained yet so I'll drop it again. Things that I was in the habit of leaving on stand-by are now switch fully off. I'll be walking more places where I can and was thinking today I'll get my bike out to see what it needs.

We are at war, an economic war. And humanity needs us to make the economic war work and the faster the better
Yes. Chop up some wood and turn off the oil. Any fuel use we can cut back on will reduce demand for his energy as a whole. Got to the stage of making sacrifices if we are to beat him at his game.
 

Zippy768

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Dorset/Wilts
When this ends (not sure how or when tbh), they/we will all be heading back to Russia to happily take the gas and oil.

Will all be forgotten far quicker than it all started ☹️
Tragically money always talks in the end.

The upshot of what this war will mean for the immediate future of just living, really hasn't sunken in for alot of people yet.
 

Lincsman

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
When this ends (not sure how or when tbh), they/we will all be heading back to Russia to happily take the gas and oil.

Will all be forgotten far quicker than it all started ☹️
Tragically money always talks in the end.

The upshot of what this war will mean for the immediate future of just living, really hasn't sunken in for alot of people yet.
Still plenty of coal that can be dug in the "western world", our last coal power station is running flat out every day now.
 

Cowabunga

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Location
Ceredigion,Wales
The ex-German Chancellor Merkel pandered to the Green Party and shut down German nuclear generators for no good reason, thus making Germany dependent on Russian gas. If Russia switches that off, their industry and homes freeze, it’s as simple as that. They have made themselves hostages to Russian pressure and blackmail. That’s a total abdication of one of the few absolute top responsibilities of any Government and that is to ensure the security of their energy supply. The other imperatives, which I’ve listed before in relation to the UK situation, are security of defence, shelter, food and water in no particular order. The UK is not so hot on these issues either but just maybe this current and near future issues, including exploding food prices and possibly severe shortages moving on until 2024, will open their dopy eyes somewhat and concentrate their priorities?
 

Cowabunga

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Location
Ceredigion,Wales
I can only hope, for German’s sake, and Italian, that the German nuclear plants can be restarted and quickly. The UK ports and dockers are turning away ships with Russian oil and refined fuel on board. This is likely to have some impact on diesel availability and price in the UK in the short term.
 

Nearly

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Location
North of York
So the Russian ruble has been massively devalued on the world exchanges.
Do Germany etc agree to buy at a certain price in euros, dollars or rubles?
If agreed in euros or dollars then they'll actually be paying Putin more rubles for gas than before?
 
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Cowabunga

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Location
Ceredigion,Wales
Germany has lots of coal still in use
Yes but they can only burn ‘so much’. The reason for concern is clear. Russia supplies more than half of Germany’s gas, half of its coal and roughly a third of its oil.

The German government has abdicated its responsibility to its country. It absolutely cannot function without Russian energy, because such vast amounts just cannot be sourced from elsewhere in the short to medium term. We are talking years not months. America and other countries have warned them privately and publicly of their vulnerability ever since they decided, after Fukushima, to close their perfectly good nuclear power stations.
 

Cowabunga

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Location
Ceredigion,Wales
So they arrnt 100% dependant on russian gas
To replace the Russian gas, if they stopped using it, would require all the LNG tankers in the world today to just supply Germany, full time. The volume or bulk required to be replaced is mind-boggling and I assume that to be true for the coal as well.
If those taps were turned off it would be devastating, not just for the German people and their economy but for the whole of Europe that would compete for existing available supply. Especially as storage of gas in some countries, including the UK, has been run down to ridiculously low reserves.
 

Bury the Trash

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Mixed Farmer
No gas here of any type.apart from a propane bottle in the workshop.
Dont have central heating never have.
log burner in front room and a blanket on yer knees when its bitter.
i converted the oil rayburn in the kitchen thatd oes the hot water back to solid wood/bit of antrhacite couple of years after 9/11 when oil was getting dearer and dearer .
gas and oil came about because most were too lazy to do the manual work of sold
too many softies around these days that have had too much money to spend lol.
 

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