Maybe farmers have wisely been finding alternatives
. I really don't get why we are so bothered about nitrogen per se. If its too expensive we will have to settle for lower yields and higher prices.
CF
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. I really don't get why we are so bothered about nitrogen per se. If its too expensive we will have to settle for lower yields and higher prices.
- Location
- Shropshire
I don’t want lower yields, I want £350/t and higher yieldsMaybe farmers have wisely been finding alternatives
I really don't get why we are so bothered about nitrogen per se. If its too expensive we will have to settle for lower yields and higher prices.
Buy fert then, its simple
- Location
- Warwickshire
IMO the real sickener is the fact that CF have been slating urea and promoting AN, giving us more unjustified regulation, then doing this.
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Everybody seems to assume we can rely on imported N. I think that’s highly unlikely. It will be a case of charity begins at home and we’ll be right at the back of a very long queue.
Those U.K. N plants need to be nationalised and up and running ASAP, not really to ensure affordable N but to ensure any N at all.
Those U.K. N plants need to be nationalised and up and running ASAP, not really to ensure affordable N but to ensure any N at all.
Totally agree , Boris needs to tell them put up or fuk off
- Location
- Lincolnshire
The idea that wheat would be worth growing without a reasonable supply of N, at least 120 kgN /ha is laughable. There comes a point when a low yield and poor quality just makes it a completely unviable commercial proposition. Higher grain prices won’t make up for lower yields. They’ll just kill our pig and poultry industry dead. Time to get real and get those fertiliser plants back in British ownership and going flat out.
spikeislander
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- Location
- bedfordshire
I must admit I had no idea that these levels of energy were required per tonne of fertiliser?
Playing devils advocate and I know not of an answer, but it doesn’t seem right to use that much does it ?
ollie989898
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Tell CF to go fish and buy imported urea like the bulk of the rest of the world?
Poland will be flat out as they tapped in to Vlads pipe , ha ha
ollie989898
Member
There is a LOT of countries out there looking to sell gas as there is a lot of it about. Get them to make fertiliser and sell it to Europe.
Indeed , create a shortage and countries will pile in , after all , shipping costs are jack sh!t in a big boat
- Location
- Lincolnshire.
Er CF produce a very large quantity of urea globally.
- Location
- Warwickshire
Mr & Mrs Joe Public rely on cheap chicken as their main protein source -
and relatively cheap free range eggs.
where will that come from in future when nations have to feed their own population first ?
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- Lincolnshire
Absolutely spot on. This crisis is to a large extent of our making. Natural gas always did seem too good to burn. It’s a valuable raw material. We are also over reliant on it for fertiliser production and we need to wean ourselves off it. I’d say that will take decades to achieve without crashing food supplies.
In the short term we need to ensure we have sufficient ammonium nitrate for next years crops. Simple as. Priority number one.
Why isn’t somebody doing something? They seem to be fiddling while Rome burns.
In the US ?
ollie989898
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There are other games in town.
- Location
- Lincolnshire
And DEFRA banning straight urea. I mean seriously WTF?
- Location
- S.E
security of fertiliser supply for next year should be right at the top of the government to do list.
Hilly
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- Location
- Scottish Borders.
Certainly what they say when they talk about importing lamb , eco friendly as well they say when the old tub is full of lamb …… lyimg barstewards .