This is getting ridiculous

GeorgeK

Member
Location
Leicestershire
It's the hypocrisy that gets me. I assume these people's cats and dogs never disturb or kill any birds? If they're so concerned I suggest they buy their own field or even better pull their houses down and return the plots to their natural, wildlife abundant condition before they go driving round the countryside forcing other people to offset the environmental destruction caused by their lifestyles.

Goddamn hippies
 
Because I know if there are several pairs of skylarks singing over a field, they would 100% be nesting in that field.
100 % , really might they not just be feeding there, good job you're not involved in making the regulations that the farmer involved was following. Where do you think the confrontation came from? Not the farmer, he's going about his lawful business.
 

Humble Village Farmer

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BASE UK Member
Location
Essex
100 % , really might they not just be feeding there, good job you're not involved in making the regulations that the farmer involved was following. Where do you think the confrontation came from? Not the farmer, he's going about his lawful business.
100%. They are marking or defending their territory. It's what songbirds do.
 

No wot

Member
Half these bell ends come onto your land and have more rights than you do….if you went into their garden they’d have the police on you before you could blink
Best money I've spent is ring fencing (stock wire & 2 barbed strands ) + planting up any gaps on rd sides on all my 4 blocks of ground , where as before it was open house to walk through a gap onto the stubble, then where ever they wanted to walk , now it's completely stopped , it's also made it possible to graze the sheep on the stubble too , which is extremely useful
 

serf

Member
Location
warwickshire
Its the best thing that can happen when the looming food shortage comes to fruition
( that the gov say won't happen) then all this nonsense sh!t will be chucked in the long grass and we can get a gov in that has to do something keep the country fed and then it will be big carrot little stick time .......

Will be better than any spokesmen/ representative/ or what other lobby pretends to Stand up for the job can do !
 

Exfarmer

Member
Location
Bury St Edmunds
Every time you take a tractor in to a field some damage is done to the wildlife, even if you perchance just run it over.
I was at an anti GM meeting where sugar beet was being discussed and 90% of the audience were highly committed farmer bashers.
I got to my feet and said I grew sugar beet , boos came from all around. But I said, I hoe my beet, a cheer went up, hooray.
I then quickly deflated them by saying that, I am certain all those skylarks whose nests I destroyed every year would surely prefer a nice non poisonous spray of roundup
 

kfpben

Member
Location
Mid Hampshire
I agree it's bonkers but at the same time so is knowingly destroying skylark nests. But that's the industrial scale farming we now practice.

I don't know what the solution is. Every possible solution will have cost implications that don't affect the consumer; which means there are no solutions.

What I don't think is a very good look is farmers saying it's our right to destroy wildlife in pursuit of economic gain.
That’s literally what farming is. Manipulating the landscape for human benefit and in the pursuit of economic gain.

Wildlife to a greater or lesser extent needs to be controlled or there would be no crop and none or very expensive food.

Rabbits, rats, pigeons, intestinal worms, maggots/flies, flea beetle, deer, foxes, magpies etc etc. All need control.
All this ‘farming in harmony with the environment’ is bending the truth at best, dishonest at worst.
 

Ffermer Bach

Member
Livestock Farmer
I agree it's bonkers but at the same time so is knowingly destroying skylark nests. But that's the industrial scale farming we now practice.

I don't know what the solution is. Every possible solution will have cost implications that don't affect the consumer; which means there are no solutions.

What I don't think is a very good look is farmers saying it's our right to destroy wildlife in pursuit of economic gain.
well, farmers "destroy" wildlife and wildlife habitat to produce food for people to eat, would they rather we rewilded the whole world, and let 95% of the human race starve? Maybe they would as long as the 5% were the people they knew personally! I think we should farm in a way that looks after wildlife, but you can't grow food without killing things that would be there otherwise. Unfortunately that is a tough lesson that our society has chosen to forget.
 

Humble Village Farmer

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BASE UK Member
Location
Essex
well, farmers "destroy" wildlife and wildlife habitat to produce food for people to eat, would they rather we rewilded the whole world, and let 95% of the human race starve? Maybe they would as long as the 5% were the people they knew personally! I think we should farm in a way that looks after wildlife, but you can't grow food without killing things that would be there otherwise. Unfortunately that is a tough lesson that our society has chosen to forget.
That's exactly what I have been trying to say, only you have put it much better than me.
 

Cowabunga

Member
Location
Ceredigion,Wales
How can you possibly quote someone saying "I can see both sides of the argument." and call them an absolute vile troll.
You are having a laugh, right?
He expects farmers to stop work, which is the harvest of food, because some idiot sees a bird flying above. There is no two sides to that. It is patently ridiculous. As was the event that spawned this topic. There is no two sides. One lot are absolute unmitigated spoilt brats with nothing better to do and no truck whatsoever should be given to them.
 

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