Just when you thought it couldn’t get any worse in government for farmers ……. Neil Parrish

Bald Rick

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Anglesey
Woe betide any Civil Servant whose computer is tainted by porn sites,

Over 24,000 attempts to access porn on parliamentary computers in 2018 alone

I make two observations:

1) I have not been in HoC since 2014
2) Porn is some of the most boring things you can view.

 

Bruce Almighty

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Warwickshire
Whilst not all women are "nice", and not all men are "horrible", life is still weighted against women overall. I agree, there are instances of men suffering terribly as a result of coercive control. I heard of a man who was given shelter in a normally exclusively female Women's refuge so as to be safe from an abusive relationship. It's extremely rare. By and large, it's women who find themselves in situations of being under coercive control.

Woman's Hour does accept input from men. There was once a Men's Hour on Radio 4, which did not last.

It's about time that trainee doctors have accurate resources on female anatomy. It's far different from men's than simply pelvic width.
It’s less rare than you think. A man would be ashamed to admit it.

One of my cousins is a 6’2” gentle giant who used to play rugby.
We were stunned when he revealed he was divorcing his wife after she had repeatedly threatened him with a knife.
 

ian33a

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It’s less rare than you think. A man would be ashamed to admit it.

One of my cousins is a 6’2” gentle giant who used to play rugby.
We were stunned when he revealed he was divorcing his wife after she had repeatedly threatened him with a knife.

I'm not sure that many men are too ashamed to admit it - perhaps they are too gentlemanly to do so.

Generally it's the men, like your cousin, who become the victims of coercive or violent behaviour because they don't stand up to those who administer it. While some may think this to be weak, I'd say that it's a strength of character in that it shows a sense of personal control in very adverse circumstances.

Few can really understand how manipulative and life threatening some relationships can be unless they have direct experience of what happens within them.
 

DrWazzock

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Lincolnshire
I'm not sure that many men are too ashamed to admit it - perhaps they are too gentlemanly to do so.

Generally it's the men, like your cousin, who become the victims of coercive or violent behaviour because they don't stand up to those who administer it. While some may think this to be weak, I'd say that it's a strength of character in that it shows a sense of personal control in very adverse circumstances.

Few can really understand how manipulative and life threatening some relationships can be unless they have direct experience of what happens within them.
I know a bloke who was forced out of the home by his wife and lived in a pod in his own garden for several years. He hadn’t had an affair or done any kind of misdemeanour. His wife would have tested the patience of a saint. He eventually acquired another house, married a Polish cleaner, and lived happily ever after.
 

primmiemoo

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Devon
It’s less rare than you think. A man would be ashamed to admit it.

One of my cousins is a 6’2” gentle giant who used to play rugby.
We were stunned when he revealed he was divorcing his wife after she had repeatedly threatened him with a knife.
Poor man. How terrible for him, and well done to him for getting that divorce. It is rare, but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
 

primmiemoo

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Location
Devon
Over 24,000 attempts to access porn on parliamentary computers in 2018 alone

I make two observations:

1) I have not been in HoC since 2014
2) Porn is some of the most boring things you can view.

Interesting statistic. I wonder what the ratio(?) of attempts was from interns, from MPs, paid staff, etc, back then ~ and what changes there've been given the general culture within No. 10 itself since Johnson's incumbency.

I'm not quite brave enough to gloogle @bovrill 's search suggestion :nailbiting:
 
Poor man. How terrible for him, and well done to him for getting that divorce. It is rare, but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

Jordan Peterson did an interesting talk on this once saying whilst men are definitely more likely to get violent than women that women tend to use other tools such as innuendo or accusation etc which can be equally co-ercive in a different way.

I'm not trying to compare one with another and claim they are the same, they are not but the impact of both can be equally damaging. So in a way if someone wants to hurt someone they will use the tools that best suits them to do this.
 

primmiemoo

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Location
Devon
Jordan Peterson did an interesting talk on this once saying whilst men are definitely more likely to get violent than women that women tend to use other tools such as innuendo or accusation etc which can be equally co-ercive in a different way.

I'm not trying to compare one with another and claim they are the same, they are not but the impact of both can be equally damaging. So in a way if someone wants to hurt someone they will use the tools that best suits them to do this.
It would be a sorry state of affairs if the human element were eclipsed by constructs of gender politics, too.
 

primmiemoo

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Location
Devon
Or perhaps he didn't want his phone looking at.....
Search engines are geared to pleasing their user. Putting Claas Dominator into the search engine on my tablet brought up a long list of sites about that make of harvesting machine, with a mention about Neil Parish in the last link offered ... but then, nobody who uses this tablet has a tendency to explore dodgy material online.
 

DrWazzock

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
I have researched specs of farm machinery on various sites only for a pop up window to appear encouraging me to visit a porn site. I haven’t visited such sites as I don’t agree with porn or want my details logged by such sites.
But why and how is it acceptable for these pop ups to appear when browsing for machinery data? I won’t use machinery data sites again that allow porn advertisement pop ups. Must of these data/spec sites are rubbish anyway and just a lure in for other promotions. As I’ve never viewed porn online I can’t see they have tailored the pop up based on any of my previous browsing other than maybe they guess I’m male.
It’s a bit like the various betting site adverts on the TV. Why on earth are they allowed? They only serve to make poor vulnerable impressionable people even poorer. Should be banned if there was real care about lifting folk out of poverty.
 

Exfarmer

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Location
Bury St Edmunds
I have researched specs of farm machinery on various sites only for a pop up window to appear encouraging me to visit a porn site. I haven’t visited such sites as I don’t agree with porn or want my details logged by such sites.
But why and how is it acceptable for these pop ups to appear when browsing for machinery data? I won’t use machinery data sites again that allow porn advertisement pop ups. Must of these data/spec sites are rubbish anyway and just a lure in for other promotions. As I’ve never viewed porn online I can’t see they have tailored the pop up based on any of my previous browsing other than maybe they guess I’m male.
It’s a bit like the various betting site adverts on the TV. Why on earth are they allowed? They only serve to make poor vulnerable impressionable people even poorer. Should be banned if there was real care about lifting folk out of poverty.
I would agree ads for porn and gambling should be banned , but my son who is serious in IT reckons it would be nearly impossible unless there was an international agreement and policing
 
I Think that it would have been much better if either Caroline Noakes or the other tory MP had just whispered in Neil Parrish's ear and said "put it away Neil, you ought not to be doing that here". They could have spoken to him later and no doubt that he would have been extremely embarrassed and ashamed. He wouldn't have done it again and wouldn't have lost his career. His going is a loss to Parliament, his constituency and to British farming.
 
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yellowbelly

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Livestock Farmer
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N.Lincs
I Think that it would have been much better if either Caroline Noakes or the other tory MP had just whispered in Neil Parrish's ear and said "put it away Neil, you ought not to be doing that here". They could have spoken to him later and no doubt that he would have been extremely embarrassed and ashamed. He wouldn't have done it again and wouldn't have lost his career. He is a loss to Parliament, his constituency and to British farming.
Aye, but that wouldn't be the woke way to do it, would it?
I guess they see him as too much of an old fashioned type of Tory MP and saw it as a good way to get shot of him.
 

Oldmacdonald

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Mixed Farmer
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Scotland
I have researched specs of farm machinery on various sites only for a pop up window to appear encouraging me to visit a porn site. I haven’t visited such sites as I don’t agree with porn or want my details logged by such sites.
But why and how is it acceptable for these pop ups to appear when browsing for machinery data? I won’t use machinery data sites again that allow porn advertisement pop ups. Must of these data/spec sites are rubbish anyway and just a lure in for other promotions. As I’ve never viewed porn online I can’t see they have tailored the pop up based on any of my previous browsing other than maybe they guess I’m male.
It’s a bit like the various betting site adverts on the TV. Why on earth are they allowed? They only serve to make poor vulnerable impressionable people even poorer. Should be banned if there was real care about lifting folk out of poverty.

I can honestly say in my years of browsing for machinery online, never once has a porn pop up appeared!!
 

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