Dairy farmers quitting the industry in high numbers.

Jdunn55

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And another one
 

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Uggman

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Tis always a full carpark when I drive by, load of rich people in Cullompton........ well maybe lots of rich people driving through Cullompton 🤣
The son and his boyfriend do the farm shop the whole family have got lots of fingers in lots of pies especially. Housing development land
 

som farmer

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Shopping trip?
another high input/output herd, and very high genetics/pedigree herd.
while its not 'nice' to see so many herds sell up, it could be a consolidation of the dairy industry, into a much leaner, meaner industry.
What surprises me, a lot of cows on the market, yet both milk, and barreners, are in short supply, milkers are strong money, demand dictates that, just doesn't 'quite' add up. Perfectly happy with it though, high milk demand, high barren price, both are excellent for dairy farmers.
 
another high input/output herd, and very high genetics/pedigree herd.
while its not 'nice' to see so many herds sell up, it could be a consolidation of the dairy industry, into a much leaner, meaner industry.
What surprises me, a lot of cows on the market, yet both milk, and barreners, are in short supply, milkers are strong money, demand dictates that, just doesn't 'quite' add up. Perfectly happy with it though, high milk demand, high barren price, both are excellent for dairy farmers.
Could it be the higher price for milk means the base price for cows has risen proportionally ?
 

Jdunn55

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Could it be the higher price for milk means the base price for cows has risen proportionally ?
I think it's because food is short, gp back 5 years and tesco would have everything in stock and supply shortages simply didn't exist (with the exception of maybe Christmas)

Now it's not uncommon to find empty shelves and things just not there. Saw recently how there was no Lettuce in London supermarkets - the vegans were not happy! It just wasn't available!
 

Ffermer Bach

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I think it's because food is short, gp back 5 years and tesco would have everything in stock and supply shortages simply didn't exist (with the exception of maybe Christmas)

Now it's not uncommon to find empty shelves and things just not there. Saw recently how there was no Lettuce in London supermarkets - the vegans were not happy! It just wasn't available!
I have noticed that too, gradually there are more shortages and things missing from the shelves, but it has been so gradual that people haven't noticed it happening.
 

tepapa

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North Wales
Yep, it's definitely happening, its only going to get worse imo
Do you think the super markets are starting to condition shoppers to learnt that some of their favourite products are not always available so when a shortage does occur their already accustomed to not having everything they want in their basket?
 

bigw

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Scotland
Yep, it's definitely happening, its only going to get worse imo

Its definately going to get way worse as its not just farmers suffering from supply chain inflation and years of being squeezed very hard by retailers. I was reading an article from the US that stated that packaging is getting very hard and expensive to source in some cases. I know our own creamery had difficulty in sourcing plastic pouches for cheese to go in and the government have now added a plastic tax too.
 

som farmer

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somerset
Could it be the higher price for milk means the base price for cows has risen proportionally ?
the higher price of milk, is negated by rising input costs.
UK production of milk is down, spot milk is expensive, so milkers will be dearer.
but, milk is short, barren price is at record levels, and still rising, so farmers must be hanging on to cows, for their milk, and yet milk production is static, or slightly decreasing, doesn't quite add up.
Top barren price, is well within prime price, so beef must be short, lambs are making good money, and now, chicken/broiler are rapidly rising, price of feed, and a shortage.
Certainly not complaining, quite the opposite, but its far from a 'normal' market place, for ag products. Looking forward, things look quite good for food producers, could say, about time.
lts certainly going to be an interesting year.
 

som farmer

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somerset
I think cow price is high because tb and people trading in cull cows for better cows
Not point in feeding crap when you can feed something decent
TB cows enter the food chain, we are cashing in old cows, and replacing with better, as are many others, but, barreners are desperately short, so that isn't making any difference.
Perhaps its simple as they have just screwed us down to much, and these prices are the result of that.
 
the higher price of milk, is negated by rising input costs.
UK production of milk is down, spot milk is expensive, so milkers will be dearer.
but, milk is short, barren price is at record levels, and still rising, so farmers must be hanging on to cows, for their milk, and yet milk production is static, or slightly decreasing, doesn't quite add up.
Top barren price, is well within prime price, so beef must be short, lambs are making good money, and now, chicken/broiler are rapidly rising, price of feed, and a shortage.
Certainly not complaining, quite the opposite, but its far from a 'normal' market place, for ag products. Looking forward, things look quite good for food producers, could say, about time.
lts certainly going to be an interesting year.
Lambs well back on same week as last year
 
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TB cows enter the food chain, we are cashing in old cows, and replacing with better, as are many others, but, barreners are desperately short, so that isn't making any difference.
Perhaps its simple as they have just screwed us down to much, and these prices are the result of that.

Cull cows are good money because everyone is eating mince they can’t afford the steaks and the good joints of meat.
 

In the pit

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Pembrokeshire
TB cows enter the food chain, we are cashing in old cows, and replacing with better, as are many others, but, barreners are desperately short, so that isn't making any difference.
Perhaps its simple as they have just screwed us down to much, and these prices are the result of that.
Yes but still keeps milking cows high if people are replacing what they’ve lost
Tb rule makers seem to be more relaxed with the rules at the moment
 

nonemouse

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North yorks
Cull cows are good money because everyone is eating mince they can’t afford the steaks and the good joints of meat.
Interesting to hear on radio the other day, supermarket buyer saying if chicken keeps going up in price due to raising feed prices, beef consumption might increase due to relative prices ( assuming that would be an increase in demand for cheap mince/ cull cows)
We live in changing times
 

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