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Rubbish. Total amount of powder is the important figure.A lot of research on calf rearing and with the genetic potential of these calves 125g/ltr is starving them and 150g/ltr is a maintenance ration
Rubbish. Total amount of powder is the important figure.A lot of research on calf rearing and with the genetic potential of these calves 125g/ltr is starving them and 150g/ltr is a maintenance ration
Milk isn’t the cause of the scour. When I started the job I was even told if it’s scouring to give it less milkAd lib totally different to 2 big feeds twice a day plus another feed in the middle of the day
Ad-lib calves feed a little now and again
If a calf has scours the last thing you want to do is drown it in milk
So cuts it’s milk down but keep the electrolytes upMilk isn’t the cause of the scour. When I started the job I was even told if it’s scouring to give it less milk
So look on the bag 125g /ltr and feed 3 lts twice a day =750g of powderRubbish. Total amount of powder is the important figure.
Exactly, took our calves from 150 to 125 grams this year and fed more concentrate and fresh grass to save money and they look even better than last year.Rubbish. Total amount of powder is the important figure.
I'd give them a ring Monday to ask, surely with offices full of experts they will soon give your answer ,Levy money well spent. Where do I sign up for some of this £227/t cake? View attachment 1034453
It’s quoting dry mater, so more like £280 but still a bit offLevy money well spent. Where do I sign up for some of this £227/t cake? View attachment 1034453
When I went into milking cows @Jdunn55 I moved vet to someone I felt could help my shortcomings. Still with him today and still bounce thoughts and problems.Knew it was too good to be true, would have been 2 weeks today without anything dieing on me!
Still alive atm but I've got about 0 hope
Extra frustrating as this one was born outside and dam had rotavec been having parafor, started scouring day before yesterday, drank 3l yesterday morning tubed with 2l of water yesterday lunch and drink 3.5l of milk last night, yesterday's temperatures were 38.7, 38.8 and 38.7 and had metacam day before yesterday for scour
Worse more like £193 @ 85%DMIt’s quoting dry mater, so more like £280 but still a bit off
one drink with my Saturday night takeaway and my maths has gone to potWorse more like £193 @ 85%DM
I would agree with you if they were being fed 2 litre/head twice a day, but I don't know anyone who still does that. It depends how many litres they have, doesn't it? We feed at the recommended rate per litre for our powder as that is how it is formulated. But we feed more per head. If we were 'starving' them then our Holstein heifers would not be 100 kg+ when weaned at 8 weeks and calving in at 24 months, something that we have been doing for years. Anyone who has seen pictures of our in-calf heifers has always agreed they look a picture.A lot of research on calf rearing and with the genetic potential of these calves 125g/ltr is starving them and 150g/ltr is a maintenance ration
And in giving more litres at a lower concentration, you are ensuring their fluid intake, rather than relying on them drinking water, which they will not be doing on a regular basis until they are a few weeks old. This could well be part of jdunns problem.I would agree with you if they were being fed 2 litre/head twice a day, but I don't know anyone who still does that. It depends how many litres they have, doesn't it? We feed at the recommended rate per litre for our powder as that is how it is formulated. But we feed more per head. If we were 'starving' them then our Holstein heifers would not be 100 kg+ when weaned at 8 weeks and calving in at 24 months, something that we have been doing for years. Anyone who has seen pictures of our in-calf heifers has always agreed they look a picture.
Stupid boy, mammas own, powder saved for special occasionsPowder?
we feed 2l/feed, of acidified colostrum, any more, for calves under 5 weeks, scour, but they take water and cake, usually wean at 8 weeks, eating 2kg cake, comfortably, and grow to calve at 24 months, or if beef, to regularly top price as weaned calves, 3 months.And in giving more litres at a lower concentration, you are ensuring their fluid intake, rather than relying on them drinking water, which they will not be doing on a regular basis until they are a few weeks old. This could well be part of jdunns problem.
Is milk scour a real thing that will kill calves.
I don't think a healthy calf will ever die for the sole reason it was given too much milk.
However I do sometimes question the feeding of the milk when the calf is scouring. The milk is what the bugs are living off of.
A scouring calf won't die from lack of nutrients it will die from dehydration. So I would be tempted myself when a calf is scouring to cut the milk completely and rehydrate for a couple of days.
Dad swears by this anything we put onto powder less than 10 days old seems to scour here.Maybe Jdunn55 should try going all natural and give the calves cows milk
Ours start at 100 and move to 140 at about 20 days old, I was very sceptical at the start but if I pushed any harder I was going to end up feeding the calves myself and to be fair the calves are looking really well and mortality is sub 1% on a rolling 12 month averageWe weigh them 2-3 times as they grow and are always ahead of target.Exactly, took our calves from 150 to 125 grams this year and fed more concentrate and fresh grass to save money and they look even better than last year.
As for parafor we only feed at quarter rate and it works well