Sucklers anyone miss them ?

Nenuphar

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Ireland
No, he came from mainland Scotland. No idea really about due date. It’s just one of those things. I was just pointing out that native breeds do not necessarily go hand in hand with easy calving
It can happen, I AI'd an easy calving shorthorn into a pb LM heifer as an experiment and had to cut her to get him out. I only put ropes onto two others this year for reference!
 

Barnbrothers1212

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Livestock Farmer
Hi all, got a problem with trespassers not sticking to the footpath in the fields, they think it’s ok to climb over the gates,cut wires and walk in fields nowhere near the footpath. (btw this is all pasture fields) It’s now got to the stage where some big nasty dogs are chasing the suckler cows and their calves. I know that I am legally allowed to shoot the dogs but unfortunately do not own a shotgun so what can I do? I have spoken to many dog owners but they honestly don’t care, what can I legally do? can I stab them instead??
 

JMTHORNLEY

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Location
Glossop
Hi all, got a problem with trespassers not sticking to the footpath in the fields, they think it’s ok to climb over the gates,cut wires and walk in fields nowhere near the footpath. (btw this is all pasture fields) It’s now got to the stage where some big nasty dogs are chasing the suckler cows and their calves. I know that I am legally allowed to shoot the dogs but unfortunately do not own a shotgun so what can I do? I have spoken to many dog owners but they honestly don’t care, what can I legally do? can I stab them instead??
Not to my knowledge no. Ask a pal to help you out but wouldn’t try stabbing one tbh 🤣
 

Bill the Bass

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Cumbria
Hi all, got a problem with trespassers not sticking to the footpath in the fields, they think it’s ok to climb over the gates,cut wires and walk in fields nowhere near the footpath. (btw this is all pasture fields) It’s now got to the stage where some big nasty dogs are chasing the suckler cows and their calves. I know that I am legally allowed to shoot the dogs but unfortunately do not own a shotgun so what can I do? I have spoken to many dog owners but they honestly don’t care, what can I legally do? can I stab them instead??

Fox snare? Well hidden gin trap? Poison? Or just pay a local keeper to drop them (and shoot their dogs) Probably not legal but neither is aggravated trespass...
 
I’ve had a mare of a calving time this year from abortion to cryp calves that won’t suck and really have had enough of the f…ing things pretty well convinced myself that they’ve got to go .
I love to look at a field of great looking cows and calves but I’m not getting any younger kids are not farming and I just can’t quite decide what to do .
I’m sure others have been in my position so do you have any regrets about shifting them on ?
We currently buy weaklings in so my plan would be to replace the suckler calves with extra dairy cross weanlings.
all i can say is you're not alone. i'm scunnered at the moment. calves have been finding every different way to die or get ill, cows getting ill, calves not sucking, last year store breaking a leg and the worst of all, this relentless freezing rain turning the place into a quagmire , scunnered

although in a couple of months i'll have forgotten and go through it again next year....
 

Sharpy

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Livestock Farmer
all i can say is you're not alone. i'm scunnered at the moment. calves have been finding every different way to die or get ill, cows getting ill, calves not sucking, last year store breaking a leg and the worst of all, this relentless freezing rain turning the place into a quagmire , scunnered

although in a couple of months i'll have forgotten and go through it again next year....
Similar here. Sickening.
 

unlacedgecko

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Fife
If I hadn’t got a gun an I couldn’t stop the dog by other means I’d just run the fecker over!!! Stabbing a ramblers dog to death may come across as a bit over the top, and also may bring attention from the wrong sort of people, like a psychiatrist 🤔

There's precedent that stabbing to death a dog in defence of another animal is perfectly legal.

 

Jonp

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Gwent
all i can say is you're not alone. i'm scunnered at the moment. calves have been finding every different way to die or get ill, cows getting ill, calves not sucking, last year store breaking a leg and the worst of all, this relentless freezing rain turning the place into a quagmire , scunnered

although in a couple of months i'll have forgotten and go through it again next year....
Been very different down here, no rain for months and very warm.
Just come back from searching the woods for the last three to calve, in rain!, everytime I see my first calf heifer it breaks my heart as I had to pull a stillborn from her. On a serious guilt trip as I should have spotted her earlier, beautiful calf out of the best heifer I've ever bred.
Out door calving is great but there is a downside, I've learnt a bitter lesson.
 

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