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RMSLLOYD

Member
I’d be interested too know how much living material comes through those digesters? It gets fair cooked in there, would kill of most things. Not like the old days when they used too come and inject pretty much pure sewage into the ground. Although our stock never took any harm from it…
We used to have sludge cake years ago tipped up through the Winter and spread in the Spring onto maize ground. If it was a mild year there would be dozens of tomato plants covering the pile. Nice🤢
 

Werzle

Member
Location
Midlands
We were told exclude stock for 3 weeks following application of liquid and solid digestate.

Can't get it here this year.
Stock will not touch grass for weeks that has been ferted with chicken muck unless its had heavy rain to wash the taint off, they will starve rather than eat it. I wouldnt want to risk grazing too soon after any type of manure has been used, cant be right
 

RMSLLOYD

Member
What are these companies going to do with this human crap if no farmer took it….farmers are paying them to get rid of their waste full of god knows what…..tell them to keep it a couple of years then see who is paying who
They will pay the big arable outfits that take thousands of tons from them and charge the smaller (mostly livestock) outfits. That's what happens round here anyway.
 

hendrebc

Member
Livestock Farmer
Yeah I've seen reports that the amount of women on hormonal contraception in London means the male fish in the Thames are changing sex.
And I bet no one in London is talking about what they'redoingto the fish. It's f**king insane that that is allowed to happen. Why the hell are we bothering with nvz and measuring our muck to the gram with buffer zones etc if people are allowed to pee whatever they like down the drain and sewage companies are allowed to dump it in rivers without removing it.
Dee Valley water where I'm in the catchment area for did a thing where you could get free hire of a weed wiper to use glyphosate instead of mcpa to kill rushes. They did that because apparently they were finding mcpa in the water treatment place and it's apparently difficult to filter out. Fair enough it shouldn't be there they definitely need to stop that. But have they offered women on the pill free condoms so they aren't pissing hormones into the rivers. Have they f**k. Do they even look for that? I've never heard of it who would want to open that can of worms....
 

Henarar

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
And I bet no one in London is talking about what they'redoingto the fish. It's f**king insane that that is allowed to happen. Why the hell are we bothering with nvz and measuring our muck to the gram with buffer zones etc if people are allowed to pee whatever they like down the drain and sewage companies are allowed to dump it in rivers without removing it.
Dee Valley water where I'm in the catchment area for did a thing where you could get free hire of a weed wiper to use glyphosate instead of mcpa to kill rushes. They did that because apparently they were finding mcpa in the water treatment place and it's apparently difficult to filter out. Fair enough it shouldn't be there they definitely need to stop that. But have they offered women on the pill free condoms so they aren't pissing hormones into the rivers. Have they f**k. Do they even look for that? I've never heard of it who would want to open that can of worms....
there are other [fit and forget] options to pills and condoms [the condoms would most likely end up down the bog anyway] but pills seem to be the easy option
 

hendrebc

Member
Livestock Farmer
there are other [fit and forget] options to pills and condoms [the condoms would most likely end up down the bog anyway] but pills seem to be the easy option
Condoms would be much easier to filter out though :sick: pills are only rhe easy option for the men not si easy for the woman. Definitely not the easy option for the rivers they eventually end up in....
 

Alias

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Lancashire
Stock will not touch grass for weeks that has been ferted with chicken muck unless its had heavy rain to wash the taint off, they will starve rather than eat it. I wouldnt want to risk grazing too soon after any type of manure has been used, cant be right
There was a time, 1980’s, when the boffins were advising using ensiled chicken muck as a protein source for beef rations. I new of a couple of farms that were trying it, I thought they were crackers. Seemed to go out of fashion after BSE 🤦🏻‍♂️. If it doesn’t feel right then it probably isn’t. I think that they still do tricks like that in Israel though.
 

unlacedgecko

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Fife
There was a time, 1980’s, when the boffins were advising using ensiled chicken muck as a protein source for beef rations. I new of a couple of farms that were trying it, I thought they were crackers. Seemed to go out of fashion after BSE 🤦🏻‍♂️. If it doesn’t feel right then it probably isn’t. I think that they still do tricks like that in Israel though.

There are some that still use it. I think these days it baked to kill bacteria and improve DM content.

EU banned it in 2001 and F&M. But popular in North America.
 

jendan

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Northumberland
They will pay the big arable outfits that take thousands of tons from them and charge the smaller (mostly livestock) outfits. That's what happens round here anyway.
They used to just dump it all in the sea,but was stopped years ago. In Northern England,a company used to haul and spread it on farmland.It was meant to be "safe" and treated,when in actual fact,they only mixed a bit of lime in with it,and not very well at that.Raw Human sh!t/washing machine detergent with a little lime.The neighbouring estate next to me used alot,and it stank to high heaven.Made a few people actually vomit out of their car windows while passing. Tyne Grain/GrainCo told their arable men if they were caught using it,their grain would be rejected.This was 5-10 years ago now,so i think it must have been stopped spreading it in that form.
 

Anymulewilldo

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Cheshire
What are these companies going to do with this human crap if no farmer took it….farmers are paying them to get rid of their waste full of god knows what…..tell them to keep it a couple of years then see who is paying who
Incinerator. Except the chief executive at Manchester decided it was better too mothball the incinerator up here than modernise it. So in our area surplus cake has too be carted south too be burnt! 🤦🏻‍♂️
If you haven’t got another source of OM to apply it should be top of the arable farmers list! But fert is quick and easy. It’s a totally different product from what it was 20 years ago!
 

Anymulewilldo

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Cheshire
They used to just dump it all in the sea,but was stopped years ago. In Northern England,a company used to haul and spread it on farmland.It was meant to be "safe" and treated,when in actual fact,they only mixed a bit of lime in with it,and not very well at that.Raw Human sh!t/washing machine detergent with a little lime.The neighbouring estate next to me used alot,and it stank to high heaven.Made a few people actually vomit out of their car windows while passing. Tyne Grain/GrainCo told their arable men if they were caught using it,their grain would be rejected.This was 5-10 years ago now,so i think it must have been stopped spreading it in that form.
They’ve tightened up on what is allowed out into farms now, mainly because of the threat of court action if they are caught spreading something harmful!
what they release into the Manchester ship canal and the rivers at night though… that’s different 🤬
 

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quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

read the TFF thread here: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/gfc-was-to-go-ahead-now-not-going-ahead.405234/
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