Have you taken part in any Future Farming Resilience Fund events recently?

DevonDuckie

Member
Has anyone taken part in the interim phase of the Future Farming Resilience Fund over the last few months? There is an independent study being carried out where you can feed back your opinions/experiences (which will ultimately be fed back to Defra), so if anybody wants to feed back (in the form of a short interview or a Focus Group), you can contact Sonja Schneuwly: [email protected]. This is going to be scaled up very soon so farmer feedback is really important so that they can get it right!
 

Frank-the-Wool

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
East Sussex
Why do all these new terms start with "RE"?
Resilience is probably easier to understand that the other new ones such as Rewilding and Regenerative.

However "Future Farming Resilience Fund" makes me think this is to give enough money for us Peasants to stay on the land and continue to keep the countryside neat and tidy.

Could you please describe in simple terms for us Peasants to understand what this Resilience Fund is all about.
 
Bascially giving tax payers money to "Consultants" - which tend to be the same group of people we see employed in the civil service.

It's the same thing you see throughout government, moving money away from equality to the chosen few.

Disgusting IMHO.
 
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Formatted

Member
Livestock Farmer
Appreciate the person posting didn't come up with the scheme, but since we're discussing it the amount of money being spent on this program is absolutely insane, a criminal waste of tax payers money that's being funneled to consultants.

Freedom of information request for Recipient, Total Grant Amount
  • ADAS,"£470,657.00"
  • AHDB,"£3,905,582.00"
  • Berrys,"£317,632.00"
  • Brown & Co,"£811,853.00"
  • Bury Beet Group,"£59,820.00"
  • Ceres Rural LLP,"£225,969.00"
  • Devon County Council,"£730,999.28"
  • DJM Consulting,"£298,970.00"
  • JH Agri Consultancy,"£144,000.00"
  • Kite Consulting,"£528,220.00"
  • Landworkers Alliance,"£283,122.61"
  • Laurence Gould Partnership,"£318,825.00"
  • M B Hodgson & Son Limited,"£66,700.00"
  • Natural Enterprise,"£65,738.50"
  • NIAB,"£74,958.00"
  • Promar International Ltd,"£507,000.00"
  • Ricardo-AEA Ltd,"£766,490.28"
  • SRUC,"£213,497.00"
  • The Prince's Countryside Fund,"£996,839.00"
@Clive will love the £3.9 million to AHDB!
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Appreciate the person posting didn't come up with the scheme, but since we're discussing it the amount of money being spent on this program is absolutely insane, a criminal waste of tax payers money that's being funneled to consultants.

Freedom of information request for Recipient, Total Grant Amount
  • ADAS,"£470,657.00"
  • AHDB,"£3,905,582.00"
  • Berrys,"£317,632.00"
  • Brown & Co,"£811,853.00"
  • Bury Beet Group,"£59,820.00"
  • Ceres Rural LLP,"£225,969.00"
  • Devon County Council,"£730,999.28"
  • DJM Consulting,"£298,970.00"
  • JH Agri Consultancy,"£144,000.00"
  • Kite Consulting,"£528,220.00"
  • Landworkers Alliance,"£283,122.61"
  • Laurence Gould Partnership,"£318,825.00"
  • M B Hodgson & Son Limited,"£66,700.00"
  • Natural Enterprise,"£65,738.50"
  • NIAB,"£74,958.00"
  • Promar International Ltd,"£507,000.00"
  • Ricardo-AEA Ltd,"£766,490.28"
  • SRUC,"£213,497.00"
  • The Prince's Countryside Fund,"£996,839.00"
@Clive will love the £3.9 million to AHDB!
All the usual snouts in the trough. Disgusting.
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
I could name two family farming businesses locally who were “finished” by taking advice from certain consultants on that list.
The idea that a floozy just out of college can come out and put a business back on the tracks is complete nonsense.
Usually all that’s required is folk to have a good tidy up and get off the arses a bit earlier.
I’ll tell you that for free.
Yours sincerely,
Wazzock Consulting.
 

holwellcourtfarm

Member
Livestock Farmer
Supposedly about advice to farmers to make them more profitable without subsidy.

Supposedly.

I'm told by several sources that a number of those "usual suspects" are hiding their usual consultancy work behind this project just taking the money.

How ANY of those (possibly excepting the LWA) are capable of advising farmers how to become more profitable escapes me, their business model is overwhelmingly to simply persuade farmers they need their expensive advice which usually revolves around ADDING expense to the farm operation, not cutting it. How many of their staff have ever actually run a farm themselves with their own money at risk?

And DEFRA are complicit in it.
 
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30 odd years ago we were looking into going into milk and took advantage of a free half day on farm consultation with a bloke from ADAS. He came out listened to what we were thinking and went away to write his report.
A few days /weeks later we got a nice written report advising us to do exactly as we planned, nothing new, nothing else to consider.
Nice work if you can get it but it was worth exactly what we’d payed for it.
 

super4

Member
Location
Dorset
I will admit to taking advantage of this scheme.. I felt it would be interesting to have another set of eyes look over my business and maybe learn something from them. I have had 2 visits by 2 different consultants so far which lasted about 2hrs each.
I have to say there was very little they could add to what I was already doing. They both said though that without subsidies nearly all the farms they had looked over so far would be loosing money.
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
I’ve maybe been a bit harsh and cynical.
But I think there’s a lot to be said for simplifying and refining and sticking to what you are good at.
I’m trying that here. We will soon be down to just three big rotating arable cropping blocks with permanent grass for hay on the small awkward bits.
Beet, most of sheep, will be all gone by next year. I need to be able to do it after tea. And do another completely different part time job to boost income. And I can close the gate from October to March.
Job done. It’s a 200 acre arable farm in Lincs. It shouldn’t be all consuming.
 

DevonDuckie

Member
Really interesting to hear everyone's different perspective. The fund isn't anything to do with me, I'm just helping evaluate how effective it has been so far. So good, bad and ugly comments welcome (ok, maybe not ugly)! I wonder if it's of more benefit to people who might not normally be able to afford advice? If the advice they get through it is of good quality?
 

BenAdamsAgri

Member
BASE UK Member
Location
Oxfordshire
Really interesting to hear everyone's different perspective. The fund isn't anything to do with me, I'm just helping evaluate how effective it has been so far. So good, bad and ugly comments welcome (ok, maybe not ugly)! I wonder if it's of more benefit to people who might not normally be able to afford advice? If the advice they get through it is of good quality?
I believe that is where it is most beneficial, but good to hear an outside opinion sometimes
 

Drillman

Member
Mixed Farmer
I’ve one of the firms coming to us.

its free,

I don’t think we’re doing anything wrong/badly at the moment

however

it’s a fresh fair of eyes looking over the place from a different angle

And

i don’t have to take any notice if I don’t like what there saying

whats not to like???
 

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