Lord King WTAF

kiwi pom

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Location
canterbury NZ

Nowt to do with me guv. Mervyn King was Governor of the BoE from 2003 to 2013 and presided over the start of the current mess. Him and his mates around the world created the thinking that has brought the world to this moment in time. Now it’s bad luck and mistakes in the last couple of years that’s caused the problems and definitely nowt to do with him. Nowt to do with all that money printing and absurd interest rate policy for all those years before and after 2008. Unreal.
I obviously don't understand it properly because I thought his comments were fair enough. Before Covid and the Ukraine we seemed to be doing pretty well.
 

holwellcourtfarm

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Livestock Farmer
Personally I would move Parliament to somewhere like Birmingham, put house of Lords 100 miles away from that - Leeds, York, Lincoln...

I'd have Parliament on one side of town and civil service the other (so they have to travel through reality to see each other).

I'd halve the number of MP's and civil servants and finally, write a constitution which sets out their duties to the public not their parties or themselves with a cut down, realistic set of responsibilities.

To be fair, the current politico and civil service would hsit themselves but it would cause the cleanout that we so badly need and deserve.
Plus making it a criminal offence, with penalties STARTING at 5 years jail, to take up paid employment in a field for which you had high level public procurement or policy involvement within 5 years of leaving a political or civil service post (including local government)....
 

holwellcourtfarm

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Livestock Farmer
I dunno.

Macroeconomics is different. The cost of not keeping bad banks afloat could have been more if a lot of people lost life savings etc.
But we would have recovered much more quickly and the risky bank behaviors would have stopped dead. Ideally all debts owed to the collapsed institutions would have been written off.
 

Hindsight

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Location
Lincolnshire
The RMT union announces plans for industrial action. Those of us of a certain ag will recall the 70s. Double digit inflation, industrial action etc. I though the Nurses would be first to seek a double digit pay rise. But I forgot the militant RMT. Gonna be fun for the government!! And awful for non unionised. Hey ho.
 

DaveGrohl

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Cumbria
I dunno.

Macroeconomics is different. The cost of not keeping bad banks afloat could have been more if a lot of people lost life savings etc.
Ah the Gordon Brown defence. It’s a simple truth that if Gordon Brown thinks it’s a good idea then you can be pretty certain it isn’t. Some of their savings were protected (around £90k from memory) anyway. But that’s the whole idea around which the global financial system used to work. What we have now is an almighty unprecedented misallocation of capital and resources. If you remove the clearout wtf do you think results? We’re beginning to find out…..
 

vantage

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Pembs
Personally I would move Parliament to somewhere like Birmingham, put house of Lords 100 miles away from that - Leeds, York, Lincoln...

I'd have Parliament on one side of town and civil service the other (so they have to travel through reality to see each other).

I'd halve the number of MP's and civil servants and finally, write a constitution which sets out their duties to the public not their parties or themselves with a cut down, realistic set of responsibilities.

To be fair, the current politico and civil service would hsit themselves but it would cause the cleanout that we so badly need and deserve.
And in Wales, the trough feeders have voted to increase their number by more than 50%, Labour and Plaid colluded on this.:mad:
 

toquark

Member
Iceland recovered, look at the mess they were in. So did the country.
They did and they did it properly. Thing is they have a population of 300,000. The size of Aberdeen. So relatively it's much much easier to carry out radical reforms on such a tiny economy.

I think the Scandinavian’s pragmatic and actually quite fiscally conservative attitude which exists in their society made their response to 2008 politically palatable. The population realised they’d made a mistake.

Can you imagine the media/chattering class’s response here if we’d done the same? Not that that’s an excuse for deferring the difficult decisions, but our politicians are either too spineless or inept to carry them out.
 

toquark

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And in Wales, the trough feeders have voted to increase their number by more than 50%, Labour and Plaid colluded on this.:mad:
I’m firmly of the opinion that devolution has been a mistake. What do these people actually add? Other than posturing and layering more legislation on top of stuff that already exists, or twisting it ever so slightly just to be different? The week Russia invaded Ukraine, our own FM saw fit to make an announcement pardoning people convicted of witchcraft in the 15-17th centuries. You couldn’t make it up.

Get rid of them. All of them.
 
I’m firmly of the opinion that devolution has been a mistake. What do these people actually add? Other than posturing and layering more legislation on top of stuff that already exists, or twisting it ever so slightly just to be different? The week Russia invaded Ukraine, our own FM saw fit to make an announcement pardoning people convicted of witchcraft in the 15-17th centuries. You couldn’t make it up.

Get rid of them. All of them.

It just employs more people and costs the people (that is all of us, be you Scottish, Welsh or Cornish) more money. I note the SNP managed to botch the procurement of two (yes, just two) ferries which still are not completed but leave the exchequer with a 140 million black hole? And folk want to hand total governmental responsibility to them? Good luck with that.
 

Hilly

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I’m firmly of the opinion that devolution has been a mistake. What do these people actually add? Other than posturing and layering more legislation on top of stuff that already exists, or twisting it ever so slightly just to be different? The week Russia invaded Ukraine, our own FM saw fit to make an announcement pardoning people convicted of witchcraft in the 15-17th centuries. You couldn’t make it up.

Get rid of them. All of them.
Agree , another tony bast tard blair mistake .
 

SFI - What % were you taking out of production?

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    Votes: 79 42.2%
  • Up to 25%

    Votes: 65 34.8%
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  • 50-75%

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  • 75-100%

    Votes: 3 1.6%
  • 100% I’ve had enough of farming!

    Votes: 7 3.7%

Red Tractor drops launch of green farming scheme amid anger from farmers

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As reported in Independent


quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

read the TFF thread here: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/gfc-was-to-go-ahead-now-not-going-ahead.405234/
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