The war in Ukraine...

Muck Spreader

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Livestock Farmer
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Limousin
His mother says no more contracts & he replies yes mother no more contracts, doesn't sound like a conscript to me.
A lot of conscripts were forced into signing up as contract solders. This enabled the military to send them to Ukraine to fight which they 'legally' could not do with conscripts.
 
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A lot of conscripts were forced into signing up as contract solders. This enabled the military to send them to Ukraine to fight which they 'legally' could not do with conscripts.
It not being a war, they can resign.

 
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Hindsight

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Lincolnshire

Been waiting for this moment. I was speaking with a client farmer this morning saying at some stage the UN security council will have ot face the issue of the world needing the grain. And providing a safe passage to Odessa. About to get interesting.
 

Treg

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Cornwall
Been waiting for this moment. I was speaking with a client farmer this morning saying at some stage the UN security council will have ot face the issue of the world needing the grain. And providing a safe passage to Odessa. About to get interesting.
Yes this is the dangerous bit :unsure: Well for the rest of the world not the Ukrainians.
 

Muck Spreader

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Livestock Farmer
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Limousin
I definitely think this is the way the west should go. It's about time we called Putin's bluff, tell him we are coming into Odessa with UN sanctioned bulk carriers to load grain for the third world and if he intervenes we will send what's left of his navy to join the rest of it. The Black sea is not his personal pond.
 

German

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Mixed Farmer
Then do so and educate us, because being familiar with the current situation and Kosovo, a rational and objective assessment contradicts you...
It doesnt, it goes against everything the UN stood for.
Another one for you.
Northern Ireland is Britians Donetsks Peoples Republic and Ireland is Ukraine.
 

BrianV

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Dartmoor
Jaw dropping.

Maybe next week Brian V will decide he was wrong all along.
Not a chance I'm afraid, maybe in a few months you yourself might decide you could have been misled.
To me the Ukranians have played the West, here's yet another example,

Normally war crimes are investigated by independent tribunals later but the Ukrainians know full well that if they sentence this prat to life now & some others then the Russians will definitely try the right wing soldiers they have captured very quickly in retaliation enabling the Unkrainan's to get worlds sympathy yet again, if they cared at all for their captured soldiers they would wait before pushing the Russians to retaliate.
As with arming civilians out of uniform we are being played, & no I don't give a damm if Putin drops dead tomorrow just telling it as I see it.

Why does Ukraine want to hold war crimes trials at home?
Earlier today, a court in Ukraine jailed a Russian tank commander for lifefor killing a civilian, at the first war crimes trial since the invasion.​


War crimes trials often happen on neutral ground at the International Criminal Court in The Hague. And that could still happen. The International Criminal Court and the United Nations have their own enquiries under way.
But Ukraine wants to move fast. Today’s conviction is unusual – coming just three months into the war.
British barrister Wayne Jordash QC, an adviser to the Ukrainian prosecutor’s office, says this does not mean cutting corners. He says all evidence has to be collected according to international standards.
He also says several thousand more indictments for war crimes are in the pipeline.
Jordash says Ukraine is adamant it wants to try all cases domestically. “The ICC can only do so much,” he tells the BBC's Panorama. The ICC tends to prosecute leaders and their immediate circles, and not lower-level officers.
The Russian government denies it has been targeting civilians.
 

Treg

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Cornwall
Not a chance I'm afraid, maybe in a few months you yourself might decide you could have been misled.
To me the Ukranians have played the West, here's yet another example,

Normally war crimes are investigated by independent tribunals later but the Ukrainians know full well that if they sentence this prat to life now & some others then the Russians will definitely try the right wing soldiers they have captured very quickly in retaliation enabling the Unkrainan's to get worlds sympathy yet again, if they cared at all for their captured soldiers they would wait before pushing the Russians to retaliate.
As with arming civilians out of uniform we are being played, & no I don't give a damm if Putin drops dead tomorrow just telling it as I see it.

Why does Ukraine want to hold war crimes trials at home?​

Earlier today, a court in Ukraine jailed a Russian tank commander for lifefor killing a civilian, at the first war crimes trial since the invasion.​


War crimes trials often happen on neutral ground at the International Criminal Court in The Hague. And that could still happen. The International Criminal Court and the United Nations have their own enquiries under way.
But Ukraine wants to move fast. Today’s conviction is unusual – coming just three months into the war.
British barrister Wayne Jordash QC, an adviser to the Ukrainian prosecutor’s office, says this does not mean cutting corners. He says all evidence has to be collected according to international standards.
He also says several thousand more indictments for war crimes are in the pipeline.
Jordash says Ukraine is adamant it wants to try all cases domestically. “The ICC can only do so much,” he tells the BBC's Panorama. The ICC tends to prosecute leaders and their immediate circles, and not lower-level officers.
The Russian government denies it has been targeting civilians.
So you have changed your opinion :unsure:
Your now saying Ukrainians have played the west:rolleyes:
 

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