The war in Ukraine...

Not a chance I'm afraid, maybe in a few months you yourself might decide you could have been misled.
To me the Ukranians have played the West, here's yet another example,

Normally war crimes are investigated by independent tribunals later but the Ukrainians know full well that if they sentence this prat to life now & some others then the Russians will definitely try the right wing soldiers they have captured very quickly in retaliation enabling the Unkrainan's to get worlds sympathy yet again, if they cared at all for their captured soldiers they would wait before pushing the Russians to retaliate.
As with arming civilians out of uniform we are being played, & no I don't give a damm if Putin drops dead tomorrow just telling it as I see it.

Why does Ukraine want to hold war crimes trials at home?​

Earlier today, a court in Ukraine jailed a Russian tank commander for lifefor killing a civilian, at the first war crimes trial since the invasion.​


War crimes trials often happen on neutral ground at the International Criminal Court in The Hague. And that could still happen. The International Criminal Court and the United Nations have their own enquiries under way.
But Ukraine wants to move fast. Today’s conviction is unusual – coming just three months into the war.
British barrister Wayne Jordash QC, an adviser to the Ukrainian prosecutor’s office, says this does not mean cutting corners. He says all evidence has to be collected according to international standards.
He also says several thousand more indictments for war crimes are in the pipeline.
Jordash says Ukraine is adamant it wants to try all cases domestically. “The ICC can only do so much,” he tells the BBC's Panorama. The ICC tends to prosecute leaders and their immediate circles, and not lower-level officers.
The Russian government denies it has been targeting civilians.
Deary me🙈
 

renewablejohn

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Not a chance I'm afraid, maybe in a few months you yourself might decide you could have been misled.
To me the Ukranians have played the West, here's yet another example,

Normally war crimes are investigated by independent tribunals later but the Ukrainians know full well that if they sentence this prat to life now & some others then the Russians will definitely try the right wing soldiers they have captured very quickly in retaliation enabling the Unkrainan's to get worlds sympathy yet again, if they cared at all for their captured soldiers they would wait before pushing the Russians to retaliate.
As with arming civilians out of uniform we are being played, & no I don't give a damm if Putin drops dead tomorrow just telling it as I see it.

Why does Ukraine want to hold war crimes trials at home?​

Earlier today, a court in Ukraine jailed a Russian tank commander for lifefor killing a civilian, at the first war crimes trial since the invasion.​


War crimes trials often happen on neutral ground at the International Criminal Court in The Hague. And that could still happen. The International Criminal Court and the United Nations have their own enquiries under way.
But Ukraine wants to move fast. Today’s conviction is unusual – coming just three months into the war.
British barrister Wayne Jordash QC, an adviser to the Ukrainian prosecutor’s office, says this does not mean cutting corners. He says all evidence has to be collected according to international standards.
He also says several thousand more indictments for war crimes are in the pipeline.
Jordash says Ukraine is adamant it wants to try all cases domestically. “The ICC can only do so much,” he tells the BBC's Panorama. The ICC tends to prosecute leaders and their immediate circles, and not lower-level officers.
The Russian government denies it has been targeting civilians.
Just for once think of what other options the Ukranians have. Its been highlighted on here the footage from security camera's of Russians accepting cigerettes from security guards then 2 minutes later shooting them in the back. Dont you see how important it would be if they found the soldiers who did that to put them on trial immediately and give them a similar sentence to the one who pleaded guilty this week. Its the only way left for Ukranians to establish some morals on the battlefield if those morals are not being instigated in the russian troops by those in charge of the troops. The ICC in the Hague needs to be reserved for the chain of command the fodder at the bottom should be exempt from such courts but only if they abide by the rules of war. All the Ukranians are doing is fast tracking the fodder who are not abiding by the rules of war.
 

BrianV

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Just for once think of what other options the Ukranians have. Its been highlighted on here the footage from security camera's of Russians accepting cigerettes from security guards then 2 minutes later shooting them in the back. Dont you see how important it would be if they found the soldiers who did that to put them on trial immediately and give them a similar sentence to the one who pleaded guilty this week. Its the only way left for Ukranians to establish some morals on the battlefield if those morals are not being instigated in the russian troops by those in charge of the troops. The ICC in the Hague needs to be reserved for the chain of command the fodder at the bottom should be exempt from such courts but only if they abide by the rules of war. All the Ukranians are doing is fast tracking the fodder who are not abiding by the rules of war.
In a perfect world I would agree with you whole heartedly but as we both know our world right now is far from perfect, there are murderous thugs on all sides to pretend different is being naive, these pair should be caught & handed over to the appropriate people but to pretend all soldiers are so evil is simply wrong.
 

Hindsight

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Yes this is the dangerous bit :unsure: Well for the rest of the world not the Ukrainians.


 

German

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From the East of Germany no doubt. More likely Ruskie.

ДА товарищ

Im a Putinbot


Nothing of the sort its just religion gone mad.
That isnt true, the Northern "Irish" are the british 5th collum.

They could say Im irish and nobody would have a problem but they wont so they can go back to Britian
The real Britian, not irish lands.
British people in ireland are like Russians in Ukraine.
 

Hindsight

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ДА товарищ

Im a Putinbot



That isnt true, the Northern "Irish" are the british 5th collum.

They could say Im irish and nobody would have a problem but they wont so they can go back to Britian
The real Britian, not irish lands.
British people in ireland are like Russians in Ukraine.

British People if Ireland

S'pose depends how far back you go. 50, 100, 200, 300, 400 years - at what point would you say the offspring of the original settlers become domestic. Define 'British' people for a start? UK Passport holders? My fmily have lived in the Fens for several generations - suppose if I bothered to get some DNA checked there is a bit of marauding Franks, Angles or Saxon in me. Maybe if that is your logic I am a German invader settled in The Fens and should be deported to whence I came?
 

German

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British People if Ireland

S'pose depends how far back you go. 50, 100, 200, 300, 400 years - at what point would you say the offspring of the original settlers become domestic. Define 'British' people for a start? UK Passport holders? My fmily have lived in the Fens for several generations - suppose if I bothered to get some DNA checked there is a bit of marauding Franks, Angles or Saxon in me. Maybe if that is your logic I am a German invader settled in The Fens and should be deported to whence I came?
You are exactly like those orcs in the east of Ukraine.
You dont speak a word of gaelic, dont identify as irish and can go right back to Britian.
There should be law against speaking english in ireland.
 

Danllan

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British People if Ireland

S'pose depends how far back you go. 50, 100, 200, 300, 400 years - at what point would you say the offspring of the original settlers become domestic. Define 'British' people for a start? UK Passport holders? My fmily have lived in the Fens for several generations - suppose if I bothered to get some DNA checked there is a bit of marauding Franks, Angles or Saxon in me. Maybe if that is your logic I am a German invader settled in The Fens and should be deported to whence I came?
The idiot doesn't even address the half million people born in the ROI who live in the UK, not to mention the several millions born in the UK of ROI and Irish descent - and all that being compared to the NI population of about 1.9 millions, of whom about half regard themselves as British. :banghead:
 

German

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The idiot doesn't even address the half million people born in the ROI who live in the UK, not to mention the several millions born in the UK of ROI and Irish descent - and all that being compared to the NI population of about 1.9 millions, of whom about half regard themselves as British. :banghead:
The irish in Britian are the descendants of people that where starving and went to work as cheap slave labour in british factories.
The English in Ireland (northern ireland) are the descendats of the upper class land and factory owners. The slavemasters
 

Hindsight

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The irish in Britian are the descendants of people that where starving and went to work as cheap slave labour in british factories.
The English in Ireland (northern ireland) are the descendats of the upper class land and factory owners. The slavemasters

Tis a tad wee more complex than your simplistic narrative. Hey ho, but the bread and butter stuff of social media platforms. You have though utilised the key antagonistic tag words. Well done.
 
Anybody who watches this & still thinks the Russians had serious intentions to invade & had planned it down to the last detail in advance is living in a different world, these are conscripts not trained soldiers who were not expecting to have to fight anybody.
As I have said before all is not as it appears!

The bulk of the Russian armed forces are conscripts. Have been for decades.
 
Not a chance I'm afraid, maybe in a few months you yourself might decide you could have been misled.
To me the Ukranians have played the West, here's yet another example,

Normally war crimes are investigated by independent tribunals later but the Ukrainians know full well that if they sentence this prat to life now & some others then the Russians will definitely try the right wing soldiers they have captured very quickly in retaliation enabling the Unkrainan's to get worlds sympathy yet again, if they cared at all for their captured soldiers they would wait before pushing the Russians to retaliate.
As with arming civilians out of uniform we are being played, & no I don't give a damm if Putin drops dead tomorrow just telling it as I see it.

Why does Ukraine want to hold war crimes trials at home?​

Earlier today, a court in Ukraine jailed a Russian tank commander for lifefor killing a civilian, at the first war crimes trial since the invasion.​


War crimes trials often happen on neutral ground at the International Criminal Court in The Hague. And that could still happen. The International Criminal Court and the United Nations have their own enquiries under way.
But Ukraine wants to move fast. Today’s conviction is unusual – coming just three months into the war.
British barrister Wayne Jordash QC, an adviser to the Ukrainian prosecutor’s office, says this does not mean cutting corners. He says all evidence has to be collected according to international standards.
He also says several thousand more indictments for war crimes are in the pipeline.
Jordash says Ukraine is adamant it wants to try all cases domestically. “The ICC can only do so much,” he tells the BBC's Panorama. The ICC tends to prosecute leaders and their immediate circles, and not lower-level officers.
The Russian government denies it has been targeting civilians.

Crimes committed within the territory of a country mean that country is totally at liberty to trial and imprison the offenders as is permitted under international law. To be honest, the Russian POWs are lucky they aren't being executed.
 
Yes
Irish nationalists should be armed and shouldnt be forced to concede on bit of their rightfull land

No one has conceded anything. If the people of Ireland want to live or work in Northern Ireland. There is nothing stopping them from doing so. People travel freely over that border which these days, thankfully, is just a line on a map, not an concrete or razor wire barrier manned by people with automatic weapons.

The people living in that area are free to elect their own government and regularly vote in these elections. They forge their own destiny, no one is a slave to Whitehall these days.
 
Been waiting for this moment. I was speaking with a client farmer this morning saying at some stage the UN security council will have ot face the issue of the world needing the grain. And providing a safe passage to Odessa. About to get interesting.

Not a hill I'm willing to die on but, I believe that would require Turkeys consent, which could be.... complicated.
 

German

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No one has conceded anything. If the people of Ireland want to live or work in Northern Ireland. There is nothing stopping them from doing so. People travel freely over that border which these days, thankfully, is just a line on a map, not an concrete or razor wire barrier manned by people with automatic weapons.

The people living in that area are free to elect their own government and regularly vote in these elections. They forge their own destiny, no one is a slave to Whitehall these days.
After Decades of forcefully subjugating the irish, destroying their language and culture you are claiming that these Votes are fair and free?
Of course the british 5th collumn inside ireland will manipulate the narrative as ususal.
There can be no free and fair vote if Johnsons little green men are standing right next to the ballots.

These lands are forcefully annexed by "great" Britian

Britian set the example and Putin willfully followed in its footsteps in Crimea and the Donbass.
 

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