PTO cover

CM999

New Member
As an employer, would you send an employee out working with this PTO?
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No and get the pipes tydied and bungied up. Screw arms right up ,and i see you have them under pins 👌 and lift arms to top and then wind height dial back so just off tension , ,drum that bit into you all as save stretching lift rods and stops arms dropping ,
stand the first one , after education on above if happens again ,then you have to ask why ,and suggest he pays so much
and if you dont have proper pin but a big bolt in upside down ,and then drill through nut after tightening up and put a small nut bolt through to lock it on ,
having lost a new welgar off down a hill one day ,with wrong pin in , you dont forget
 
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feilding

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
At Home
No way. A shaft like that makes the whole machine unusable. I would never use a shaft like that , no staff just me. New guard needed asap end off.
 

Galcam

Member
Nothing wrong wth that cover that a bit of bale tape won’t solve!😁 Joking aside in a perfect world you would replace the guard. Unfortunately because of time and pressure and financial reasons there are loads of unprotected shafts much worse than that working in Europe right now. It’s something u mean to fix on a wet day! This is one of the reasons why farming is such a dangerous business.
 

Highland Mule

Member
Livestock Farmer
Nothing wrong wth that cover that a bit of bale tape won’t solve!😁 Joking aside in a perfect world you would replace the guard. Unfortunately because of time and pressure and financial reasons there are loads of unprotected shafts much worse than that working in Europe right now. It’s something u mean to fix on a wet day! This is one of the reasons why farming is such a dangerous business.
Those are excuses, not reasons. Absolutely no reason that a professional outfit would run with a guard like the one in the OP.
 

Galcam

Member
Highland M I know what u mean but….if the baler is supposed to go to work and rain is on the way would you park up and go get a cover, fit it and then go baleing or do you keep customer happy and get job done with shaft as is? That’s really the decision that I think contractors and farmers are faced with. Just my thoughts mind!
 

Highland Mule

Member
Livestock Farmer
Highland M I know what u mean but….if the baler is supposed to go to work and rain is on the way would you park up and go get a cover, fit it and then go baleing or do you keep customer happy and get job done with shaft as is? That’s really the decision that I think contractors and farmers are faced with. Just my thoughts mind!
That damage doesn’t happen during use though, does it? It happens when someone does something stupid whilst connecting, so there would be no need to park up if you were already working away. I’d bet it was the stand left up that caused the damage on that one, so done at the start of a shift/ season.

And a professional outfit would have spares to hand for things that get damaged often - just like you do for fuses and lightbulbs. I’m small scale but I’d work something out even still - swap with the shaft from the topper or dung spreader and use that instead, maybe taking a quarter hour to swap and grease the new one before I’m going again.
 

milkloss

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
East Sussex
It also depends on the bloke operating the baler and if there’s likely to be curious onlookers. Won’t say what I might do personally under time sensitive need but wouldn’t be employing anyone likely to stick his fingers in that hole anyway, no matter how desperate.

I’m not disputing that that guard is in anyway useable according to HSE regs.
 

essexpete

Member
Location
Essex
That damage doesn’t happen during use though, does it? It happens when someone does something stupid whilst connecting, so there would be no need to park up if you were already working away. I’d bet it was the stand left up that caused the damage on that one, so done at the start of a shift/ season.

And a professional outfit would have spares to hand for things that get damaged often - just like you do for fuses and lightbulbs. I’m small scale but I’d work something out even still - swap with the shaft from the topper or dung spreader and use that instead, maybe taking a quarter hour to swap and grease the new one before I’m going again.
Yes it could happen during work if some form of error has dropped the lift arms down and it is not immediately noticed.
 

quattro

Member
Location
scotland
I’m not saying that shouldn’t have a new guard but if I went to that machine and found the guard like that and needed to use it I would use it
if your employing some who doesn’t see the danger in going near that shaft
should they be left to use some machinery anyway
there’s lots of machines that can’t have guards for obvious reasons of use
 

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