The war in Ukraine...

German

Member
Mixed Farmer
You really don't get it do you.
Go and look at the tapestry of the battle of Hastings, come back on here and tell me what flags you see , Our history is very complicated .
Like @Henarar says we all come from Africa in the first place , how far back should we go?
Irish are Celts but with Spanish origins.
Cornish are Celts but with Eastern European Origins , so none of us are original populations .
Should Spain claim Ireland or should the Irish claim Spain, it's all very complicated.
The Irish should actually claim Ukraine as it was once settled by celts
 

arcobob

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Location
Norfolk
Of course
it started of with a potato blight.
However the english refused to serve handouts to the lower class irish and kept exporting the grain they stole from them as their slave masters. Malnurished People had to work for a handfull of food so that the factory owners could get their goods and stolen grain faster to england via railways. When emigration and death became so bad that they had no one to exploit anymore they changed ways and kept some grain in the country.
There was potato blight throughout Europe, due largely a dependence on a very small gene pool showing no resistance to phytophthera infestans. Many people were starving and many emmigrated to the US and England, My great grandmother`s family came to England from Germany in the mid 19th century for just that reason, Other branches of the family emigrated to America. The situation in Ireland was exhaserbated by a feudal system which not only involved British landowners but Anglo Irish landlords, Nobody can be proud of this but the Westminster government of the time was onto the case. Unfortunately it was too little too late.
 

arcobob

Member
Location
Norfolk
And... at least one Anglo-Celt too. (y) :joyful:
Boudiccca was a Celt who upset the invading Romans a little and was Queen of the Iceni in East Anglia. There was more trouble to come and my family were probably descended from Norwegian vikings. Why not forget all that stuff and realise that things have moved on . We all need each other but there are certain factions today that think they need everthing.
 

Treg

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Cornwall
Boudiccca was a Celt who upset the invading Romans a little and was Queen of the Iceni in East Anglia. There was more trouble to come and my family were probably descended from Norwegian vikings. Why not forget all that stuff and realise that things have moved on . We all need each other but there are certain factions today that think they need everthing.
We should learn from history not use it as a excuse to keep doing the same.
 
Of course
it started of with a potato blight.
However the english refused to serve handouts to the lower class irish and kept exporting the grain they stole from them as their slave masters. Malnurished People had to work for a handfull of food so that the factory owners could get their goods and stolen grain faster to england via railways. When emigration and death became so bad that they had no one to exploit anymore they changed ways and kept some grain in the country.
Its why I live in Yorkshire & not County Cork, my family had to flee Ireland.

5 or 6 generations ago, I've moved on can you?
 

Hindsight

Member
Location
Lincolnshire
I qualified on grounds of birth but there were ability problems that held me back. :D

I had a good friend at school in the Fens (March) whose father was from Yorkshire. I was rather amused when we were about 16 if I recall and he told me that he his father had insisted his mother return to Scarboro four weeks before his due birth date to ensure he was born in Yorkshire and thus could play County Cricket if he were good enough. I then began to understand a little more about the jokes about Yorkshire.
 

arcobob

Member
Location
Norfolk
I had a good friend at school in the Fens (March) whose father was from Yorkshire. I was rather amused when we were about 16 if I recall and he told me that he his father had insisted his mother return to Scarboro four weeks before his due birth date to ensure he was born in Yorkshire and thus could play County Cricket if he were good enough. I then began to understand a little more about the jokes about Yorkshire.
They did have a better cricket team when they played with pride in their county.
 

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