Crimping Grain for dummies.

shumungus · Jun 3, 2022

Explain please the pros and cons of crimping grain and how its done. Am in the situation where I am growing some spring wheat for the first time (grassland suckler and sheep farm). Had originally planted the wheat with the intention of wholecropping it but different people have told me I'd be better to combine it and get the grain. Have no grain facilities on farm usually use blends and straights in a mixer wagon.

vinnie123 · Jun 3, 2022

Ho w many acres have you got planted ?

Derrick Hughes · Jun 3, 2022

Earlier to harvest ,easier to harvest , higher yield, higher feed value, more digestable , no dust, easier to store , safer to feed ,
Dry grain should be in the poison list

Kevtherev · Jun 3, 2022

shumungus said:
Explain please the pros and cons of crimping grain and how its done. Am in the situation where I am growing some spring wheat for the first time (grassland suckler and sheep farm). Had originally planted the wheat with the intention of wholecropping it but different people have told me I'd be better to combine it and get the grain. Have no grain facilities on farm usually use blends and straights in a mixer wagon.

Do you have somewhere handy to clamp the crimped grain and access to a contractor to crimp it for you and supply additive?

daveydiesel1 · Jun 3, 2022

Ring lyons contracts. Theyv done it for us in the past when harvest is too wet. Makes good enough feed

Derrick Hughes · Jun 3, 2022

Approved crimping contractors | Kelvin Cave Ltd

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These got me started and supplied additive, not sure if the do Ireland though, can't see why not

shumungus · Jun 3, 2022

vinnie123 said:
Ho w many acres have you got planted ?

20 acres this year as a trial.

shumungus · Jun 3, 2022

Derrick Hughes said:
Earlier to harvest ,easier to harvest , higher yield, higher feed value, more digestable , no dust, easier to store , safer to feed ,
Dry grain should be in the poison list

Which of these are vs wholecrop, wouldn't consider proper grain as no infrastructure for it.

shumungus · Jun 3, 2022

Have a small indoor silo 60ft x 30ft that is earmarked for it. That is why I planted 20 acre as if harvested as wholecrop it should fill it.

shumungus · Jun 3, 2022

Kevtherev said:
Do you have somewhere handy to clamp the crimped grain and access to a contractor to crimp it for you and supply additive?

Contractor shouldn't be a problem.

e3120 · Jun 4, 2022

The advantage of separating the straw and grain (whether dry or crimped) is that it gives you a few more tunes to play. You can feed more or less and add straw or not to alter the punch. Getting the silo well sealed and keeping roland out can be challenge with both (but you do have the option of a layer of grass atop the wholecrop). The straw after crimping can be hard work - baled and wrapped behind the combine isn't a bad option.

Derrick Hughes · Jun 4, 2022

shumungus said:
Which of these are vs wholecrop, wouldn't consider proper grain as no infrastructure for it.

Crimp grain is a concentrate feed for fattening stock , you have far more control over the diet than feeding whole crop.
I used to do proper grain , a total nightmare where we are , harvest battles with the weather, having to store it dry ,having to roll it over the winter , having to cope with acidosis if the eat to much
Can you get brewer's grains , I use to put that on top of the clamp before sheeting , then lime around the edges of the sheet , the grains will seal it off add to the Protien of the diet and lime will stop any rats

ollie989898 · Jun 4, 2022

As others have said, crimping is like making your own concentrate or straight really. Only no dust, no drying and no need of a shed. Simply crimp it into a pit and sheet it up. The main challenge is vermin.

You will be combining that bit earlier so you won't be able to bale the straw the same day if that makes sense. If the weather is good you can leave the straw in the swath to dry out naturally before baling.

Truenorth · Jun 4, 2022

Might be a idea to make your store narrower. If your not moving it quickly enough it will go off.

shumungus · Jun 4, 2022

Truenorth said:
Might be a idea to make your store narrower. If your not moving it quickly enough it will go off.

As wholecrop? Does additive use not help this problem?

Truenorth · Jun 4, 2022

We find you need to leave the stray alone for 2-3 weeks to dry out after combining.

Truenorth · Jun 4, 2022

shumungus said:
As wholecrop? Does additive use not help this problem?

If crimping. Our crimp face is 18ft ×8ft and find it is wide enough.

Derrick Hughes · Jun 4, 2022

shumungus said:
As wholecrop? Does additive use not help this problem?

Think he means the crimp pit needs to be narrow or you will get heating at the face ,

Chimera · Jun 4, 2022

Truenorth said:
We find you need to leave the stray alone for 2-3 weeks to dry out after combining.

We crimp in the mid 20%'s, maybe even 20%. Very often bale straw within couple of days. Crimp keeps fine

ollie989898 · Jun 4, 2022

Chimera said:
We crimp in the mid 20%'s, maybe even 20%. Very often bale straw within couple of days. Crimp keeps fine

It must be easier on the combine too to be cutting it a bit nearer to the drier end of the job.

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