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Maybe i shouldto build a stronger market for organic milk. Wouldn't be the first time. Shame other don't as well.

No I'm saying boom and bust does no one any favours. Level price at a sustainable level is better all round. Or do you prefer highs and lows?
Its easy for me to say in the soft south on the best contract I could possibly have for my system. But I really don't mind as I have a system that appears to cope well with both scenarios but if I had to choose I would go for highs and lows as it creates innovation and opportunity and is far more interesting!

realistically its what we are going to get unless we go back to quotas and give up more market share to the rest of the world.
 
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Sid

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What, you would rather we were always 3 or 4 ppl below Europe?
If thats what the market says then yes.

I didn't say anything about Europe , we soon won't be in anyway so that immaterial unless you want link your price to a fluctuating currency price that may bear no resemblance to the UK price? I would like to see a sustainable milk price @25ppl for 2 years not 35 one year down to 15 the next.
 

Sid

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Its easy for me to say in the soft south on the best contract I could possibly have for my system. But I really don't mind as I have a system that appears to cope well with both scenarios but if I had to choose I would go for highs and lows as it creates innovation and opportunity and is far more interesting!
Boom and bust you mean?
 

The Agrarian

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There isn't much difference in the long run. I look at average profitability through a minimum five year lens. In reality the horizon is much longer. Yes, it's more painful at times, but with the benefit of forcing the tools to be sharpened a little now and again. It's the natural way of things.

No there isn't. But if it takes a lower milk price for someone to sharpen up then more fool them!

Oh right. So I'm the only one who took the opportunity to reassess what my farm is about as we entered this downturn? More fool me!

Turns out I didn't change a great deal. Few tweaks here and there, and I'll be re-tweaking as we leave the downturn.
 

Happy at it

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There isn't much difference in the long run. I look at average profitability through a minimum five year lens. In reality the horizon is much longer. Yes, it's more painful at times, but with the benefit of forcing the tools to be sharpened a little now and again. It's the natural way of things.


I'd say there's a fair bit of difference for those with long term payments, for land etc, to meet. Would you hope for much above 20 pence any time soon?
 

Sid

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South Molton
Oh right. So I'm the only one who took the opportunity to reassess what my farm is about as we entered this downturn? More fool me!

Turns out I didn't change a great deal. Few tweaks here and there, and I'll be re-tweaking as we leave the downturn.
I didn't say you were a fool. Tweaking is differnet from what some have been doing sat back happy on 35p making a small margin.
 

The Agrarian

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I'd agree with you there. Heavy repayments are not really the job in depressed markets. Not holding my breath, but modestly hopeful of a 20p base fairly soon. Shouldn't be any more than two more cheques away really. After that, anyone's guess. Dairies need to stop putting product into storage first, and instead start selling it.
 

Happy at it

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Thinking that heavy repayments aren't much craic in good or bad times, hard to weigh the job up going forward. Just hope that people's faith in the companies they supply will be repayed. All of them seem to be doing more than well regardless........
 
High proteins dont just drop out of the sky ,though.High protein bulls will have lower milk generally, and their is a feed cost too.It isnt a free bonus therefore.
Last month was one of the worst months for protein in a long time 3.38%,hopefully will bank 14.77ppl. Belton cheese is out of the area but it's interesting to hear what's out there. We keep getting told about basket's for pricing.
 

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