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In 1974?
How did those that voted to stay in the EU vote in the last election
- Thread starter Henarar
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In 1974?
There cant be a "snap" election as the rules now dictate fixed term parliaments and to change that now requires a change of primary legislation which takes time to get through,If there is a snap election next spring as many are suggesting, it will be interesting to see how many of the main parties offer a second referendum on leaving terms as part of their manifesto pledge.
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- Limousin
You had better tell the party leaders they can't have one, as they all appear to be talking about it.
which party leaders ? labour would be annihilated its turkeys and christmas and fallon is a buffon thinking about another vote , nick clegg was a good leader and has been treated badly, TM isnt as far as I know and she is the only one that matters
More to life
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- Somerset
blame the chap that asked the questi
not up to anything, Just thinking that conservative voting EU supporters severely underestimated a referendum result to their detriment as did there not so powerful [ now ] leader
assumption of a vote to stay was an assumption to far, the conservatives also assumed a coalition government and were most surprised to win,
funny how things turn out, Its best not to assume things.
perhaps the EU supporters should have voted Lib Dem and got another coalition and no EU vote
I hate to say it but your right I've voted Tory my whole life. If l had to vote tomorrow I'd vote lib dem,grammar schools being the last straw for me. I hope TM can pull a rabbit out of the hat and get us out but stay in the marketplace with a fair deal for agriculture. Prove all us remain voters wrong and thrive, in which case I will most likely vote Tory again.
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I voted conservative based on the majority of the policies being what I thought were right, the referendum wasn't actually on my list. However what's the opposition to this as there isn't any real credible alternative party at the moment. If there was and I thought the majority of their policies were better I wouldn't hesitate to vote for them.
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- Limousin, France
They can if 2/3rds MPs call for it or if a vote of no confidence is called and won. The Conservatives can call and get a vote of no confidence in themselves to get an election under the parliament act 2011
dont dispute that at all but that takes a while to sort not a Thursday morning, oh by the way we are having an election in three wks time to catch the labour party et al napping,personally I think its the last thing we need
Billhook
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People seem to like to blame Cameron for holding a referendum but let us not forget that Blair mentioned it twice
Conservative MEP Daniel Hannan was almost salivating with injustice as he proclaimed Blair had twice promised a referendum on Europe, only to drop it. Is he correct?
Analysis
Hannan says Blair made promises of a referendum in both 2004 and 2005.
Certainly, on 20 April 2004 that was the case, as the PM told Parliament it should debate the European constitutional question "in detail and decide upon it" and "then let the people have the final say".
He ended the Commons statement with the war-cry: "Let the issue be put. Let the battle be joined."
No doubt in that pledge; although Blair's advisors would today point out that he is specifically referring to a debate with constitutional significance, not a watered down treaty.
'Let the issue be put. Let the battle be joined.'Tony Blair's war cry
Fast-forward to the Labour election manifesto in 2005 and the language is as forthright.
Blair promises: "We will put it [the constitution] to the British people in a referendum and campaign wholeheartedly for a Yes vote."
All of which is in contrast to Blair's response to the Financial Times in April this year after it asked if there would be a referendum.
He replied: "No. If it's not a constitutional treaty, so that it alters the basic relationship between Europe and the member states, then there isn't the same case for a referendum."
So Hannan's comments are superficially correct - but even he admits it's all in the wording.
Hannan told FactCheck: "Official comments have been made that these promises do not count because it's not a constitutional debate anymore, but that is just playing with words."
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- Limousin
She has to go to the country at some stage, she her ministers and her manifesto have no mandate from the public at present. And now would be as good a time as any.
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- Devon
I voted Lib Dem.
I knew the fickle public wouldn't appreciate what a good job they had done in government.
Having had a meeting with the local tory MP I realised he was a useless twunt.
Didn't need to vote UKIP as we were having a referendum.
I knew the fickle public wouldn't appreciate what a good job they had done in government.
Having had a meeting with the local tory MP I realised he was a useless twunt.
Didn't need to vote UKIP as we were having a referendum.
It's not Labour or Lib Dems which TM has to bother about. It's her own lot who will cause all her troubles. Nothing new in that for a Tory leader I suppose. http://bloom.bg/2cZJFqr
Danllan
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I voted Conservative. UKIP apart, I preferred their policies to others - or disliked fewer of them - but it was clear that UKIP would be unable to get us closer to a Brexit at that time other than by applying pressure on the Tories..
The decisive reason I voted for the Conservatives was because of the promise of the Referendum. I would have voted for any party promising a referendum if that party had been reasonably trustworthy and had a realistic chance of winning the General Election and delivering on the promise, in 2015 that was only the Conservatives.
I have no great dogma regarding party loyalty, and am currently minded to vote either for UKIP or the Conservatives in the next general Election depending upon how the current lot deliver on their promises. I joined and campaigned for UKIP to put pressure on the Tories, it worked. And unless the Tories renege on promises and Labour persist in their suicide-dance I can't see a real need for UKIP any more - but it did its job, brilliantly, and I think the history books will eventually give it the praise it deserves for being the catalyst in the recovery of our country's sovereignty.
Now, I know you all know I voted to leave, but I thought it reasonable to add to this thread to explain the thought / voting process from the other side, to allow a comparison.
The decisive reason I voted for the Conservatives was because of the promise of the Referendum. I would have voted for any party promising a referendum if that party had been reasonably trustworthy and had a realistic chance of winning the General Election and delivering on the promise, in 2015 that was only the Conservatives.
I have no great dogma regarding party loyalty, and am currently minded to vote either for UKIP or the Conservatives in the next general Election depending upon how the current lot deliver on their promises. I joined and campaigned for UKIP to put pressure on the Tories, it worked. And unless the Tories renege on promises and Labour persist in their suicide-dance I can't see a real need for UKIP any more - but it did its job, brilliantly, and I think the history books will eventually give it the praise it deserves for being the catalyst in the recovery of our country's sovereignty.
Now, I know you all know I voted to leave, but I thought it reasonable to add to this thread to explain the thought / voting process from the other side, to allow a comparison.
spin cycle
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i voted tory....but i float between lib dem and tory...as an 'outer' i'm confused now....do the lib dems want my vote in future..or am i a 'xenophobe' never to dirty a ballot paper in their favour 
in the establishments 'liberal' society where you can speak freely as long as they approve of what you say will i need re-educating in a 'corbynista camp'
feck it i'll vote ukip just for the protest
in the establishments 'liberal' society where you can speak freely as long as they approve of what you say will i need re-educating in a 'corbynista camp'
feck it i'll vote ukip just for the protest
bjreroberts
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Simple - i) I vote for a party based on it's overall policies, not one part of it, ii) No one expected the referendum result would turn out the way it did, everyone thought it was a tactic to stop defections to UKIP.
My choice was finely balanced, I nearly went Lib Dem think they did a good job in balancing the Conservatives whilst in the coalition and have been unfairly pilloried for it, but their policies had moved too far to the left for me.
Overall the Conservatives suited my views best, overall the party was still pro-EU, if they had changed that policy to an anti-EU one then they would not have got my vote.
wasted years
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I'm in Penrith and the border with Rory Stewart as MP, he has a rock solid majority which he increased at the last election, the second time he has been elected.
He was strongly in favour of Scotland remaining in the UK and people seemed to support that view and he was a remainer for the EU vote but the area voted against remain so taiking no notice of a their MP that otherwise gets their overwhelming support.
I find that strange but interesting.
He was strongly in favour of Scotland remaining in the UK and people seemed to support that view and he was a remainer for the EU vote but the area voted against remain so taiking no notice of a their MP that otherwise gets their overwhelming support.
I find that strange but interesting.
Danllan
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Strange chap altogether is Rory. He has some undoubted gifts, but is a bit 'economical with truth' now and then. He is often introduced as 'Former Army officer', which in theory he is... but that phrase implies something more than a nine month jolly, which is what he really had. Also, his 'responsibilities' out East often get over-played to the extent that he would seem to have been running the place rather than being a rather minor 'token civvy' administrator, which is what senior officers from our Army recall him as being...
wasted years
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Yes you are right, he never steps into play his associations down, he often name drops which is not a great sign.
I voted for him the first time round but not the second, in fact I can't see me voting conservative again while he is there.
He is often tipped for the top but he has a 'regal' air about him and I think he would get shredded by the press.
Old McDonald
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Wrong.
Some people laid some substantial bets on it happening, and not just to cover any possible losses that might be incurred when it did. They bet because they thought it would happen. I had a fair idea that after 40 years in the wilderness the UK voters had had enough and would do the right thing this time. They did. I only make small, affordable wagers.
For the record, I voted out both times.