Prototype Shearing table - first glance

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TALDLONKTUP2

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JD-Kid said:
thats due to shearing outside ewes full as ticks .. the draging out and turning on the pull is the hard part
seen a test done on heart rate and body temp for good and bad set up catching pens there was quite a drop in both
it's a good idea but sheep will not just lay there hence why the retainers to hold the legs etc also kept hands more free to move wool or level out areas move neck etc etc
i looked at the moffet one and the front leg set up would be a pain in the arse for the neck


can recall seeing one of the aussie ones and there were a few made back a few years ago alot of money poured in to it and robot shearing can't recall the amount wasted on that i think the ozzie wool sold it to peak hill think the farmers in the end stoped funding it

there were other things tryed but did not fully work that well so guys went to hair sheep, goats or wool sheders in some areas also some breeding in less wool in low value areas crutch, belly , around ears , socks etc leading to more of a body style of shearing

it's a good idea and wish yer well with it and there maybe some market for it the whole chain needs to be thought out from paddock to wool in pack and sheep back in paddock to stream line it best use of labour lower health risks costs per head etc etc

with the drop in young fellas shearing i can see the industry going a few ways eather some form of eazer shearing system ,change in some breeds , or the use of a diffrent labour pool
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Had to set up a new account for some reason..........I can't see any fundamental reason why the restraint requirements would need to be any different on a table than on the floor, the difference in previous table designs it seems is the lack of head rest/restraint unsettling the sheep and that the table bed has been flat. When shearing on the floor, the front end of the sheep is always (slightly) higher than the back thus taking pressure off the lungs (same principle as putting a slope on cow cubicles) and the head either held or having part of the shearer to rest against, this is what I've attempted to incorporate and why I believe/ hope straps (which I agree would be a self defeating pain) aren't required but admittedly at this stage it is still a desktop exercise
 
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JD-Kid said:
thats due to shearing outside ewes full as ticks .. the draging out and turning on the pull is the hard part
seen a test done on heart rate and body temp for good and bad set up catching pens there was quite a drop in both
it's a good idea but sheep will not just lay there hence why the retainers to hold the legs etc also kept hands more free to move wool or level out areas move neck etc etc
i looked at the moffet one and the front leg set up would be a pain in the arse for the neck


can recall seeing one of the aussie ones and there were a few made back a few years ago alot of money poured in to it and robot shearing can't recall the amount wasted on that i think the ozzie wool sold it to peak hill think the farmers in the end stoped funding it

there were other things tryed but did not fully work that well so guys went to hair sheep, goats or wool sheders in some areas also some breeding in less wool in low value areas crutch, belly , around ears , socks etc leading to more of a body style of shearing

it's a good idea and wish yer well with it and there maybe some market for it the whole chain needs to be thought out from paddock to wool in pack and sheep back in paddock to stream line it best use of labour lower health risks costs per head etc etc

with the drop in young fellas shearing i can see the industry going a few ways eather some form of eazer shearing system ,change in some breeds , or the use of a diffrent labour pool
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I worked with a chap in nz, he must have been 70 he sheared his 1100 ewes with another chap, I never heard of anyone complaining of bad backs over there, but they knew the importance of always keeping your back warm.
 
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TALDLONKTUP2 said:
Had to set up a new account for some reason..........I can't see any fundamental reason why the restraint requirements would need to be any different on a table than on the floor, the difference in previous table designs it seems is the lack of head rest/restraint unsettling the sheep and that the table bed has been flat. When shearing on the floor, the front end of the sheep is always (slightly) higher than the back thus taking pressure off the lungs (same principle as putting a slope on cow cubicles) and the head either held or having part of the shearer to rest against, this is what I've attempted to incorporate and why I believe/ hope straps (which I agree would be a self defeating pain) aren't required but admittedly at this stage it is still a desktop exercise
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ummm your knees are the clamps the sheep is not just leaning against the shearers legs
that i want to see it it loaded and unloading all the videos i have seen on the net any gains are lost in the loading and unloading
the peak hill one and perkins pulling the sheep towards you from a long distance then haveing to roll the sheep over the side to let it go those guys were haveing probs and small sheep big 70+ kg ewes would be a pain .. the moffit one last bit had to side pull the sheep to put it in do that for a few days and the hip and lower back on that side will start to have probs
i would also think how to make it bend in to other shapes if the load and unload system is eazy people would use it dagging crutching foot trimming checking bags etc etc
thats maybe the thing i look at eaz of use multy use looking at it by the time it's got a lick of paint it maybe a few grand retail
it's a good idea but keep the mind open of how it can be a system and can it be up graded IE base model manual up speced air rams on tipping etc etc
 
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MJT said:
So , I was looking forward to seeing this in action earlier in the year but forgot all about it . How did it go.
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It worked reasonably well, though as I said earlier, I really need to make the loading mechanism as well for the 'system' to reach the potential, which I haven't done yet. There was a few little tweaks needed which meant some mid-season butchery, which helped, and I've a few more improvements/adjustments I want to make requiring grinder and welder and cnc cutter, which I'll do this winter. Having said all that, I've sheared all my own sheep rather than the usual getting a shearer for half of them, so it's already paid for itself, and with much less sweat and pains......So, I'd say not quite ready for the world yet, but encouraging and getting there.
 
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TALDLONKTUP2 said:
It worked reasonably well, though as I said earlier, I really need to make the loading mechanism as well for the 'system' to reach the potential, which I haven't done yet. There was a few little tweaks needed which meant some mid-season butchery, which helped, and I've a few more improvements/adjustments I want to make requiring grinder and welder and cnc cutter, which I'll do this winter. Having said all that, I've sheared all my own sheep rather than the usual getting a shearer for half of them, so it's already paid for itself, and with much less sweat and pains......So, I'd say not quite ready for the world yet, but encouraging and getting there.
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Glad to hear it ! Was hoping it worked, nice to see a home project succeed.
 
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loading position reclined position there's sheet steel on head restraint now also working position giving access to back end

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