shuttered walls

massey 6480 · Dec 4, 2016

Very nice finish you got on the wall . Would there be alot of sand in you mix

Pan mixer said:
Taking off the shutters today, they are 60 x 40 x 3 box in three sections - 2 x 8 foot and one 5 foot, ply is 12mm marine and will do about 50 walls per side if you are careful with the poker.

Bolts are 16 mm although I do use M 12 sometimes, bit of alkathene covering bolt inside the walls (they usually knock out later) and the top has to be held with steel pipe to keep the wall straight. They are the things on top of the new wall standing upright.

If I were to make them again (they are 20 years old and have done over 200 walls so far) I would probably make them in one piece but I quite often do short walls in pig pens and the ability to divide them up has been jolly useful.

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How do hold the pans in place when you want to put the wall higher .

Pan mixer said:
That wall about £100 I think. It is 10 inches thick though, I view it as bracing the building (yes, I know I have concreted in the storm brace too). There will be another pour on top when I get around to it to take it up to nearly 8 feet.

You don't lose any shed, the shed girders are there to weld to if required and it is bomb/student/geriatric (me) proof.

It is a tad irksome if you change your mind and want to create an opening there in the future however.

Pan mixer · Dec 4, 2016

massey 6480 said:
Very nice finish you got on the wall . Would there be alot of sand in you mix

How do hold the pans in place when you want to put the wall higher .

Not really that much sand in it, the secret is in the poking.

Lift one side up, bolts and everything through, place on wall top, clamp to girders and prop under with timbers, put second side up - can be fun but usually quite simple. I leave it a day or two, sometimes a week or two, sometimes even a year or three.

RWG Contracts · Dec 4, 2016

Pan mixer said:
Taking off the shutters today, they are 60 x 40 x 3 box in three sections - 2 x 8 foot and one 5 foot, ply is 12mm marine and will do about 50 walls per side if you are careful with the poker.

Bolts are 16 mm although I do use M 12 sometimes, bit of alkathene covering bolt inside the walls (they usually knock out later) and the top has to be held with steel pipe to keep the wall straight. They are the things on top of the new wall standing upright.

If I were to make them again (they are 20 years old and have done over 200 walls so far) I would probably make them in one piece but I quite often do short walls in pig pens and the ability to divide them up has been jolly useful.

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Nice finish

AndrewG · Dec 4, 2016

I made a set of shutters this year, 24ft x 4ft and 24ft x 2ft, gives me a few options of wall sizes. Decided just to make them with some 3mm steel that I had so they don't leave as flush a wall as ply wood but its good enough.

Gets quite addictive though and I now have a 6ft shuttered wall round one set of handling pens so they should last a while. currently working on a sheep dosing race beside the new dipper.

Forever Fendt · Dec 4, 2016

AndrewG said:
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I made a set of shutters this year, 24ft x 4ft and 24ft x 2ft, gives me a few options of wall sizes. Decided just to make them with some 3mm steel that I had so they don't leave as flush a wall as ply wood but its good enough.

Gets quite addictive though and I now have a 6ft shuttered wall round one set of handling pens so they should last a while. currently working on a sheep dosing race beside the new dipper.
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looks a good finish on the wall around the handling set up

Pan mixer · Dec 4, 2016

AndrewG said:
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I made a set of shutters this year, 24ft x 4ft and 24ft x 2ft, gives me a few options of wall sizes. Decided just to make them with some 3mm steel that I had so they don't leave as flush a wall as ply wood but its good enough.

Gets quite addictive though and I now have a 6ft shuttered wall round one set of handling pens so they should last a while. currently working on a sheep dosing race beside the new dipper.
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Nice looking shutters.

concrete agri · Dec 4, 2016

who are you using for tat price may I ask

Pan mixer · Dec 4, 2016

concrete agri said:
who are you using for tat price may I ask

The clue is in the handle I think, mixing our own.

euroliner · Dec 4, 2016

Pan mixer said:
Taking off the shutters today, they are 60 x 40 x 3 box in three sections - 2 x 8 foot and one 5 foot, ply is 12mm marine and will do about 50 walls per side if you are careful with the poker.

Bolts are 16 mm although I do use M 12 sometimes, bit of alkathene covering bolt inside the walls (they usually knock out later) and the top has to be held with steel pipe to keep the wall straight. They are the things on top of the new wall standing upright.

If I were to make them again (they are 20 years old and have done over 200 walls so far) I would probably make them in one piece but I quite often do short walls in pig pens and the ability to divide them up has been jolly useful.

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how many bolts would you use in each bay ? if you made it out of heavier box like 100 x 50 x 4 or something would you get away with no bolts apart from top and bottom would you think ?

Pan mixer · Dec 4, 2016

euroliner said:
how many bolts would you use in each bay ? if you made it out of heavier box like 100 x 50 x 4 or something would you get away with no bolts apart from top and bottom would you think ?

Bolts every 4 feet long-ways and three bolts vertically - one 7 inches up, one 24 and one at the top.

It might be OK with less, I am not clever enough to decide, occasionally I only want to put a short wall on top and then the middle bolts come into their own.

Don't underestimate the weight of wet concrete and a poker was what I was told (and found out), I made it so it looked right.

euroliner · Dec 4, 2016

Pan mixer said:
Bolts every 4 feet long-ways and three bolts vertically - one 7 inches up, one 24 and one at the top.

It might be OK with less, I am not clever enough to decide, occasionally I only want to put a short wall on top and then the middle bolts come into their own.

Don't underestimate the weight of wet concrete and a poker was what I was told (and found out), I made it so it looked right.

yea i know what you mean at nearly 2 an a half tonne a metre it can be very decieving just thought it would leave a nice finished wall if there was no holes , was thinking good heavy box section then getting a 5 mm plate cut at 1.5m x 4.8 m and then bolting at the top and at the bottom (as in underneath) say every foot would it still bulge along the centre

S J H · Dec 4, 2016

euroliner said:
yea i know what you mean at nearly 2 an a half tonne a metre it can be very decieving just thought it would leave a nice finished wall if there was no holes , was thinking good heavy box section then getting a 5 mm plate cut at 1.5m x 4.8 m and then bolting at the top and at the bottom (as in underneath) say every foot would it still bulge along the centre

Are your bearers at 2' square @Pan mixer ?

Does the 12mm ply bend at all?

Pan mixer · Dec 4, 2016

S J H said:
Are your bearers at 2' square @Pan mixer ?

Does the 12mm ply bend at all?

Yes they are and no not really, but maybe a mm or two only, I haven't noticed anyhow.

Pan mixer · Dec 4, 2016

euroliner said:
yea i know what you mean at nearly 2 an a half tonne a metre it can be very decieving just thought it would leave a nice finished wall if there was no holes , was thinking good heavy box section then getting a 5 mm plate cut at 1.5m x 4.8 m and then bolting at the top and at the bottom (as in underneath) say every foot would it still bulge along the centre

Not clever enough to answer that, you do need your bottom bolts up a bit so that you can get them in over the kicker that you concrete on the footings to stop the bottom wandering about and make it waterproof.

Big_D · Dec 5, 2016

AndrewG said:
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I made a set of shutters this year, 24ft x 4ft and 24ft x 2ft, gives me a few options of wall sizes. Decided just to make them with some 3mm steel that I had so they don't leave as flush a wall as ply wood but its good enough.

Gets quite addictive though and I now have a 6ft shuttered wall round one set of handling pens so they should last a while. currently working on a sheep dosing race beside the new dipper.
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You kept that quiet, I could borrow them I think

Note to all- this is why you don't tell anyone local you have shuttering!

wdah/him · Dec 5, 2016

Big_D said:
You kept that quiet, I could borrow them I think

Note to all- this is why you don't tell anyone local you have shuttering!

always answer with no problem but the cousin, in law etc has them at the minute

Big_D · Dec 5, 2016

wdah/him said:
always answer with no problem but the cousin, in law etc has them at the minute

good thinking.....but I would reply, who exactly? I will give them a ring and collect when they are finished with them! not really, more used to people borrowing things from us! though I have been known to pinch @AndrewG bale trailer

AndrewG · Dec 6, 2016

Big_D I think you could make an awesome set out of pylon steel @JPM

Big_D · Dec 6, 2016

AndrewG said:
Big_D I think you could make an awesome set out of pylon steel @JPM

That's a touchy subject. I'm starting to run out

cosmagedon · Dec 6, 2016

Here's our home made shuttering, originally made for 15 x 8ft walls then modified for 20 x 10. Its been made this way so we can concrete feed passages with the 2ft extensions when the next shed goes up.

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