Stock Fencing

james ds

Member
Location
leinster
I've always worked on the principle of the hight of the wire deep into the ground for strainers. If they come loose, then i drive a bit of wood with a wire attached 3/4 down and strain it and staple it to the post. Haven't pulled one out yet. I like telegraph poles, and you can usually get cheap strainers out of them.

have you looked at *ahem* Clipex. Im a convert, but you get shouted at for mentioning it!
As a fencing contractor I wonder why I have taken orders this week for 15,000 mts of Clipex fencing on 7 farms and no orders for timber posts and we do both , oh that's it , the farmers want a fence to last .
 

glasshouse

Member
Location
lothians
Hi Everyone,

I need to add some additional stock fencing in respect to moving forward with our plans to put some native sheep into one of our paddocks, whereby the various information I am reading is making my head spin.
Now I know there is more that one way to skin a cat so to speak, but surely the depth you sink a post into the ground should not differ much for sheep?

We are leaning towards using 100mm round posts we think (to give us some chance of getting abit of longevity out of the installation, but even that raises questions over quality of timber these days.

I contacted the company who was mentioned on here that supplies pressurised creosote posts - but received no answer back from the company, so are there any other companies who supply quality posts worth considering?

The fence will be utilising the existing stock fence which we will straighten up, then we are adding another fence behind this, then we will add some hawthorn hedging in between, so any advise would be greatly appreciated on how deep to sink the posts, and more importantly where to purchase the materials.

Thanks in advance.

Jay
If cost is not an issue as you say, then get a contractor to supply put up the fence.
If you dont know the basics of fencing you are going to end up with a mess.
And ag related firms are generally not yet in the internet age.
Being good at answering emails does not make you a good supplier of quality gooods
 

Ukjay

Member
Location
Wales!
But very few of them are selling posts as good.

Their product may be good - I would not dispute that following comments on several threads I have read, but does that make it acceptable for them to treat potential customers like they are not worthy of response, for me the answer is no!
I would rather stick twigs in the ground than beg companies like this to spend my money with them!
 

Ukjay

Member
Location
Wales!
Remember we are in West Wales, not London!!

I am sorry, but I can get answers from all over the world from a lot more remote places when using email contact - so I am not buying that as a legitimate reason for no response. You could check emails once a week if internet is slow, and still give some level of proffesionalism, but waiting over 3 weeks is more than enough for me.

Additionally, it appears they put customer feedback on their website - so again this shows their access to the digital world works just fine even if they have low download speeds . It may not be fiber bb, but it is obviously working!
Anyway, it no longer matters for me and I definitely do not want to get into a debate as a lot of people seem to be happy to accept that level of service - but I personally will take my business elsewhere.
 
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Sussex Martin

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Location
Burham Kent
Are you guys for real? If my company didn't answer emails promptly we would be out of business. We constantly have quote requests via email and most would be answered within a couple of hours, some will take longer if we have to get quotes or special prices from our manufacturers.
Like @Ukjay i find it astonishing that companies that have an email address don't answer emails! If you don't want to use email then don't advertise the address. How some of you think it's acceptable to ignor potential new customers is beyond me.
 

Ukjay

Member
Location
Wales!
Are you guys for real? If my company didn't answer emails promptly we would be out of business. We constantly have quote requests via email and most would be answered within a couple of hours, some will take longer if we have to get quotes or special prices from our manufacturers.
Like @Ukjay i find it astonishing that companies that have an email address don't answer emails! If you don't want to use email then don't advertise the address. How some of you think it's acceptable to ignor potential new customers is beyond me.

Thank you - I thought I was going mad here to expect a reply to my inquiry. I appreciate some things may take longer, but in excess of 3 weeks is stretching it a bit too far for me, even if internet speed goes back to dial up era.
 

David.

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Mixed Farmer
Location
J11 M40
I just think that if you want to deal with somebody, you ring them and actually speak to a live person.
I am less surprised than you seem to be that an initial e-mail enquiry is overlooked/spam filtered/whatever, and it would never be my first point of contact for that reason alone.
If I had actually rung up and had received poor service, my call not returned if so promised, or encountered an arrogant, take it or leave it attitude; I would share your sentiments entirely.
But then, I still find texting to be rude, when you can usually say what needs to be said in 10 seconds.
So perhaps it's me.
 
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Ukjay

Member
Location
Wales!
I just think that if you want to deal with somebody, you ring them and actually speak to a live person.
I am less surprised than you seem to be that an initial e-mail enquiry is overlooked/spam filtered/whatever.
If I had actually rung up and had received poor service, my call not returned if so promised, or encountered an arrogant, take it or leave it attitude; I would share your sentiments entirely.
But then, I still find texting to be rude, when you can usually say what needs to be said in 10 seconds.
So perhaps it's me.

The point in question was that they have email contact details, then do not respond. If you think of something over say a weekend, or outside of hours, then email is a great form of communication - plus, lets also not forget that phone calls can be a pita when you are busy.

Or would they prefer a phone call at 11pm!
 
Location
Suffolk
I like proper creasoted posts, 3'' to 4'' diameter 5'6'' long are the perfect size. If the co cant give a 20+ year guarantee they aren't worth bothering with. +1 on the annoying failure to answer emails, there's really no excuse.
Only advice I can offer is don't strain your wire too much & don't hammer the staples tight to your wire. Remember the intermediate posts are really only a support.
SS
 

Ukjay

Member
Location
Wales!
Obviously I carefully costed my first Clipex project and I reckon it came out at 3.27/metre for materials.
My and landlord's labour was free. 250m with 2 strainers.

What width are the posts spaced, and how does it look over undulating ground?

Also, how many beefy posts did you use on your fence?

Kind regards

Jay
 
Seriously though, dealing with email is a full time job in itself. You can't get anything else done.

There should be a tax placed on email similar to the cost of postage stamps then only worthwhile emails would be sent.

The Productivity of the economy would improve dramatically.
 

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