Reversing alarms at night

ACEngineering · Jan 22, 2017

It not a legal requirement to have them on a farm anyway i dont think. Only building sites and industrial etc
The inspectors dont seem to worry it there fitted or not on farms although if its there it has to work!

ACEngineering · Jan 22, 2017

John 1594 said:
would it be beyond the realms of possibility to obtain a photocell sensor or whatever they are called from a 240v yard/street light and mount this in a suitable place on the machine, wired in such a way as while the cell detects daylight, the buzzer is operative. When the sensor detects darkness, it would power up the 3rd wire in the same way as the sidelights would

Over complicating it a tad! If its dark your going to have the lights on!

Tarw Coch · Jan 22, 2017

ACEngineering said:
It not a legal requirement to have them on a farm anyway i dont think. Only building sites and industrial etc
The inspectors dont seem to worry it there fitted or not on farms although if its there it has to work![/QUOTEi appreciate you're not a legal expert but what would the position be if a reversing alarm was removed completely as from what you post it wouldn't be ok just to pull a wire off.

Blod · Jan 22, 2017

I feel quite strongly about reversing beepers. A few years ago, unbeknown to me my then husband silenced them on the telehandler at the request of his mate, a neighbour.
Next morning feeding in the wind and rain in the dark, I came close to getting crushed. Needless to say I appreciate them.

Henarar · Jan 22, 2017

Blod said:
I feel quite strongly about reversing beepers. A few years ago, unbeknown to me my then husband silenced them on the telehandler at the request of his mate, a neighbour.
Next morning feeding in the wind and rain in the dark, I came close to getting crushed. Needless to say I appreciate them.

he could of replaced it with one that said "mind out the way flower"

Kidds · Jan 22, 2017

Blod said:
I feel quite strongly about reversing beepers. A few years ago, unbeknown to me my then husband silenced them on the telehandler at the request of his mate, a neighbour.
Next morning feeding in the wind and rain in the dark, I came close to getting crushed. Needless to say I appreciate them.

How did you not hear the telehandler coming anyway?

Besides that, previous posts suggest removing the beeper would land you in trouble if something happened. May be but I doubt it, beepers are not a replacement for unsafe working practices. You should make your workplace safe by not having people need to be milling about where machines are regularly reversing. If you don't do that and something then happens you will be in the mire.
Never mind how much trouble you would be in I am sure you wouldn't want to have an accident anyway. Don't have pedestrians where the handler is.

colhonk · Jan 22, 2017

Get up at 2am,park your telehandler in reverse with the ignition on next to your first neighbour, see how he likes being woken up early

. never know, he might get the message.

Blod · Jan 22, 2017

Kidds said:
How did you not hear the telehandler coming anyway?

Blod said:
I feel quite strongly about reversing beepers. A few years ago, unbeknown to me my then husband silenced them on the telehandler at the request of his mate, a neighbour.
Next morning feeding in the wind and rain in the dark, I came close to getting crushed. Needless to say I appreciate them.

tinsheet · Jan 22, 2017

A well known knackerman around these parts, who is sadly no longer with us, used to have a voiced reversing siren saying "Caution Arthur is now reversing Caution Arthur is now reversing".

Arthur Duckett, bit of a legend in these parts.

7610 super q · Jan 22, 2017

I dunno.....my neighbour's got 4 bleeping away......all day long.
I would have thought people would get accustomed to it, and ignore them ?

milkloss · Jan 22, 2017

ACEngineering said:
It not a legal requirement to have them on a farm anyway i dont think. Only building sites and industrial etc
The inspectors dont seem to worry it there fitted or not on farms although if its there it has to work!

Would be interesting if someone could clarify this. Especially if they can be removed from a vehicle that had one from new.

bigg6480 · Jan 22, 2017

Manitou don't come with them or none of the ones we have had came with one.

robandles · Jan 22, 2017

What about the trucks now that tell you what direction they are indicating. Not annoying at all.

Xerion · Jan 22, 2017

Deereone said:
Emergency vehicles don't use their sirens at night.

I can't speak for the UK and I am sure some of the fire brigade lads will add to this !
Here in Germany we have to by law turn out to an emergency with blue lights and martins horn regardless of what time of day ; a blue light with out the horns is not a emergency signal just a warning signal !
Max

Pennine Ploughing · Jan 22, 2017

Blod said:
I feel quite strongly about reversing beepers. A few years ago, unbeknown to me my then husband silenced them on the telehandler at the request of his mate, a neighbour.
Next morning feeding in the wind and rain in the dark, I came close to getting crushed. Needless to say I appreciate them.

I cannot think why he did not see you, I take it you were wearing a hi vis jacket and hi vis waterproof legging, both with the high reflective bands on that any light will reflect from and can been very easily seen in the dark,
or were you in the farmers style dark blue or dark green that has ne chance of been seen on a dry night, never mind a wet night with rain on the window,
I really cannot understand most sticking to dark blue or green, when hi vis is the same price

7610 super q · Jan 22, 2017

bigg6480 said:
Manitou don't come with them or none of the ones we have had came with one.

That's a relief. I assumed mine had one, and had stopped working.

And TBF visibility from the RH side and rear of telehandlers ain't great. People really should have the sense to give them a wide berth........

Sid · Jan 22, 2017

Pennine Ploughing said:
I cannot think why he did not see you, I take it you were wearing a hi vis jacket and hi vis waterproof legging, both with the high reflective bands on that any light will reflect from and can been very easily seen in the dark,
or were you in the farmers style dark blue or dark green that has ne chance of been seen on a dry night, never mind a wet night with rain on the window,
I really cannot understand most sticking to dark blue or green, when hi vis is the same price

Most people i see at farm sales with the standard issue hi viz jackets are black from grim and have never seen a washing machine EVER!

Ali · Jan 22, 2017

I am studying my theory test just now and i am pretty sure one of the questions relates to this and they should not be active between 23 and 0700 same as your horn.

DrWazzock · Jan 22, 2017

A prime example of the futility of trying to replace common sense with blind obedience to rules and regulations.

if you are doing a lot of reversing at night where people are in the vicinity you might need a white noise beeper, if you are the only man on site you wouldn't need one at all because you aren't going to run over yourself.

But now, every situation needs an act of Parliament to tell us what to do, and it's just effing hopeless, going down that route.

bert · Jan 22, 2017

Had our forklift on demo for a few days before we bought it with the beeper connected. First thing I did after buying was pull the plug on the thing, they echo in sheds and the noise travels along way. Talked to both neighbours who are 600 or 700 hundred meters away and they both said thank god you stopped that bloody bepper going!

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